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Virginia Tech student accused of having assault rifle and trying to buy ammo
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Posted on 01/31/2018 8:03:48 AM PST by MNDude

Virginia Tech student accused of having assault rifle and trying to buy ammo By Nicole Chavez and Keith Allen, CNN

Updated at 7:32 AM ET, Wed January 31, 2018

History of the modern assault-style rifle 01:40 (CNN) — A Virginia Tech student was arrested Monday after police said he had an assault rifle and was trying to buy 5,000 rounds of ammunition. Yunsong Zhao, 19, has been charged with illegal possession of an assault rifle while not being a US citizen, according to an arrest warrant obtained by CNN affiliate WSLS. Police say Zhao had bought a former police vehicle -- which still had police markings -- and installed a special bumper to the car. The freshman student had also researched bulletproof vests, the document states. Virginia Tech Police Chief Kevin Foust said Zhao was arrested without incident following a "lengthy investigation."

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To: lacrew

There are Maserati’s and Lamborghini’s in Blacksburg, all driven by Chinese students.


41 posted on 01/31/2018 10:05:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: zeugma

Just because YOU say I am a strong supporter of the police state, does not make it so.

You are just some idiot posting on the internet, just like the rest of us.

I reject opinions of courts when they that contradict the original words included in the Constitution and in its various amendments. Obviously, I must live with these decisions, but from an intellectual and philosophical standpoint, I am free to reject them.


42 posted on 01/31/2018 10:07:21 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: familyop

The bullet proof vest is particularly suspicious. Many mass shooters wear them.


43 posted on 01/31/2018 10:07:34 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: NorthMountain; Vaquero; MNDude
Does the 2006 Code still apply, or has there been a revision since then?

2006 Code of Virginia § 18.2-308.2:2 - Criminal history record information check required for the transfer of certain firearms
https://law.justia.com/codes/virginia/2006/toc1802000/18.2-308.2c2.html
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In addition, no dealer shall sell, rent, trade or transfer from his inventoryany assault firearm to any person who is not a citizen of the United Statesor who is not a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence. Toestablish citizenship or lawful admission for a permanent residence forpurposes of purchasing an assault firearm, a dealer shall require aprospective purchaser to present a certified birth certificate or acertificate of birth abroad issued by the United States State Department, acertificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by theUnited States Citizenship and Immigration Services, an unexpired U.S.passport, a United States citizen identification card, a current voterregistration card, a current selective service registration card, or animmigrant visa or other documentation of status as a person lawfully admittedfor permanent residence issued by the United States Citizenship andImmigration Services.


44 posted on 01/31/2018 10:10:54 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: NorthMountain; Vaquero; MNDude
Looks like a newer one passed.

Bill Text: VA HB2317 | 2013 | Regular Session | Comm Sub Virginia House Bill 2317 (Prior Session Legislation) VA State Legislature page for HB2317
Bill Title: Firearms; residency of armed forces members.
Spectrum: Partisan Bill (Republican 1-0)
Status: (Passed) 2013-03-16 - Governor: Acts of Assembly Chapter text (CHAP0450) [HB2317 Detail]
Download: Virginia-2013-HB2317-Comm_Sub.html
https://www.legiscan.com/VA/text/HB2317/id/707944
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In addition, no dealer shall sell, rent, trade or transfer from his inventory any assault firearm to any person who is not a citizen of the United States or who is not a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence. To establish citizenship or lawful admission for a permanent residence for purposes of purchasing an assault firearm, a dealer shall require a prospective purchaser to present a certified birth certificate or a certificate of birth abroad issued by the United States State Department, a certificate of citizenship or a certificate of naturalization issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, an unexpired U.S. passport, a United States citizen identification card, a current voter registration card, a current selective service registration card, or an immigrant visa or other documentation of status as a person lawfully admitted for permanent residence issued by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.


45 posted on 01/31/2018 10:16:26 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: AppyPappy
"The bullet proof vest is particularly suspicious. Many mass shooters wear them."

Looks like a combination of elements did arouse suspicion, and a law was violated. [Guessing that he had a non-immigrant status that didn't qualify. The CNN piece does contain some errors.]

On the bullet resistant vest, it would depend on other elements of the situation, but in his case, probably, yes. They're more common among non-police and non-military people than many realize.

I've worn them before for a couple of different kinds of duty. They were somewhat okay for some situations (like sitting in a car) but hampered mobility too much for others.

Some cities have had ordinances against them because of past gang problems involving them. Don't know about all of the states, but last I knew, they were legal in most places. Are they effective? That depends, and for whom and where.

[I'm not a lawyer, by the way, and this isn't legal advice.]


46 posted on 01/31/2018 10:29:50 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

.223Remington or 5.56NATO is going for around $0.30/round. 7.62x39mm is even cheaper.


47 posted on 01/31/2018 10:43:54 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

.223Remington or 5.56NATO is going for around $0.30/round. 7.62x39mm is even cheaper.


48 posted on 01/31/2018 10:44:11 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: familyop

The VT shooter had a vest where he stored all the magazines. I don’t recall if it was bullet-proof.


49 posted on 01/31/2018 10:46:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I guess I should not mention how much .223 and 7.62x39 ammo I have at my house...


50 posted on 01/31/2018 10:50:04 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: NorthMountain

You must buy in bulk, or not live in the NorthEast, LOL.

Remember, this kid is 19, and the rifle may be one of his first guns. Even at 30 cents per, it’s a $1700 ammo stash.


51 posted on 01/31/2018 10:50:53 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: WayneS

Yeah, but you’re probably not 19 and stashing your stuff at a college.


52 posted on 01/31/2018 10:51:28 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

True enough.


53 posted on 01/31/2018 10:55:51 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
You must buy in bulk,

Is there any other way?

not live in the Northeast

WEST by gawd Virginia!!!

For just over 2 grand, you have a rifle and more than enough ammo to commit a mass murder at Virginia Tech ... where there's some history of deranged oriental students doing bad things with guns. Not too hard to imagine for a scion of the Chinese Communist Party who's flipped his wig.

54 posted on 01/31/2018 11:01:16 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

You can do it for half that price if you’re willing to use a handgun.

That’s why you need more armed good guys on campus.


55 posted on 01/31/2018 11:05:25 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: WayneS
"the people" means the People of the United States - that is, the citizens.

"person" means any individual person - non-citizens included

I see. Contrary to what the supreme court has said about the subject, you claim the 1st amendment does not apply to non-citizens. You'd apparently also only apply the 2nd, the 4th, 9th and 10th specifically only to citizens. The latter two being effectively dead letters these days, I guess that wouldn't matter much.

On a side note, "Congress shall make no law" means CONGRESS shall make no law, thereby freeing up the states to make their own laws.

That would have been true had not courts interpreted the adoption of the 14th amendment to 'incorporate' the other amendments against the state. I used to think this doctrine of incorporation was an error of the court, but over years of study, I've come to see the first ten amendments of the bill of rights as being a floor of the restrictions upon government. (These 10 amendments are restrictions upon the government, not citizens. The states may restrict their individual governments further than that specified by the federal constitution, but they may not restrict them any less.

A few weeks ago I saw a decision by by the Superior Court of the State of Delaware. I'm not sure what the 'formal' name of the specific case would be, but it was the Bridgeville Rifle and Pistol Club et.al. vs the state. The case concerned firearms, and in the decision, the Judge mentioned some federal cases, but found that the court didn't even need to consider them in rendering judgement because the State Constitution even enjoined against state action even stronger than the 2nd Amendment to the Federal Constitution did.

It was an interesting read, because they actually spend some time on the differences between the scope of the state constitution's enumerated right, and that of the 2nd Amendment. I don't normally concern myself with cases that don't affect me (in Texas) but thought it did a pretty good job of illustrating the aforementioned point of the floor provided by the U.S. Constitution. The state can recognize that a given right of the people is even more extensive than that as stated in the U.S. Constitution, but cannot restrict it further.

56 posted on 01/31/2018 11:06:24 AM PST by zeugma
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To: WayneS
Just because YOU say I am a strong supporter of the police state, does not make it so.

You are just some idiot posting on the internet, just like the rest of us.

As they say, on the internet, noone knows you're a dog.

I reject opinions of courts when they that contradict the original words included in the Constitution and in its various amendments. Obviously, I must live with these decisions, but from an intellectual and philosophical standpoint, I am free to reject them.

As do we all. Everyone bitches when courts appear to have their heads up their collective asses. I, however, will always argue an expansive view of the rights granted to us by God as opposed to them being mere crumbs allowed us by the almighty state. It would seem to me to be nothing but common sense, because the state so often has evil nested in its very core. Witness the hundred million people murdered by their own governments over the past hundred years.

57 posted on 01/31/2018 11:12:21 AM PST by zeugma
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To: zeugma

I’m talking about the United States Constitution. I have no idea what you are carrying on about.


58 posted on 01/31/2018 11:15:32 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I think that’s a lot, too, and I’ve fired more than most. :-)

It would seem to be somewhat reasonable to have 5,000 rounds for some circumstances (for one example, a frugal competitor with reloads far from supply source) and silly and wasteful for most. It’s their money, though. It’s also fun, though, watching those couch potato Walter Mittys on YouTube smoke their barrels while pretending that the end is near. I wouldn’t deprive them.

I knew a man way back when, generations ago, who might have had thousands of rounds, but he was different from most hobbyists and the majority of “SHTF” role players of today. He was a machinist, hunter and competitor who used quite a variety of cartridges. He had a large wall in his house covered with old firearms. He was my uncle.

Having 5,000 rounds on hand as differentiated from 1,000 rounds doesn’t make anyone more dangerous, but it sure makes some of them funny (and others very frugal or having other family members to practice with). What’s funnier, yet, is that most of them are planning on carrying all that across a thousand miles of hypothetically lawless desert without enough fuel, when their glamorous version of the end of the world comes.

Me? I don’t see the end of the world coming, but a disaster could happen. And if it does while I’m still living, at some point in time, I’ll be gardening and chatting with a family member or neighbor about everyday joys of life. Or making a repair or building something. Or relaxing while reading.

I’m an American of many generations. It is our nature to invent things and methods, and to make life better.

That was one great speech last night, wasn’t it.


59 posted on 01/31/2018 11:30:44 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: WayneS
I’m talking about the United States Constitution. I have no idea what you are carrying on about.

That's obvious. Have a nice day!

60 posted on 01/31/2018 11:47:53 AM PST by zeugma
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