Posted on 01/29/2018 10:35:49 AM PST by iowamark
My take as well.
I think Trump has all these fools chasing their tails.
25 billion wall for 1 trillion for illegals... what art of a deal... smh
There is no “plan.” It was simply a tactic by Trump to box the Dems in. Even if it is an actual plan, it will not pass the House. Sheesh.
Rope a dope works again.
Exactly! Trump knows the Dems won’t take the deal even though it’s generous Deal! He’s being the diplomatic one and they’re being the obstinate ones. Boxed them in
- Get the wall funded and under construction.
- End visa lottery.
- Severely curtail legal immigration for three years.
- Suspend chain immigration for three years with exceptions.
- Require E-verify.
- Step up deportations for anyone overstaying their visa.
- For children brought here illegally, grant them legal resident status but with a provision they must apply for and obtain citizenship withing 2 years.
I want amnesty conditioned on a proposed Constitutional amendment being sent to the states for ratification that repeals the “anchor baby” clause of Amendment XIV.
“For children brought here illegally, grant them legal resident status but with a provision they must apply for and obtain citizenship withing 2 years.”
Trump’s 10-12 year path is long enough that a sizable percentage (~35%) might become taxpayers and Republicans.
Young people are absolutely the worst choice for an amnesty, about 80% will be leftist come 2020.
Obama singled out young illegals for his DACA plan to win the highest percentage of new voters likely to vote Democratic.
Alex Nowrasteh is a Cato amnesty hack who has a record of using false data, history and polls to support amnesty at any cost.
If you ever dealt with him, you find he is also not very bright.
Truth is a stranger in almost anything he puts out.
a direct link to the WH press release
That is all true, but it was both parties that created the mess. The practical reality is you don’t have much choice. You are not going to get what you want and will get far less than you want if you are not willing to compromise on this one.
What are your feelings on the list of conditions I put up? Any that you would add, delete, modify. Thanks.
“Pro illegal Cato weighs in.”
‘libertarians’ accused of patriotism but proved Not Guilty.
“Greisa Martinez Rosas, Advocacy Director for United We Dream and potential beneficiary of the Dream Act, said:”
“Let’s call this proposal for what it is: a white supremacist ransom note.”
https://unitedwedream.org/2018/01/immigrant-youth-trumps-white-supremacist-proposal-no/
“I want amnesty conditioned on a proposed Constitutional amendment being sent to the states for ratification that repeals the “anchor baby” clause of Amendment XIV.”
Not necessary.
Section 5 of the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to declare that anchor babies are not what is stated in Section 1.
Section 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
My Rough draft for a Proposed IMMIGRATION AMNESTY and REFORM ACT of 2018
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3626322/posts
“The practical reality is you don’t have much choice. You are not going to get what you want and will get far less than you want if you are not willing to compromise on this one.”
Republicans have the choice. And with the Constitution requirement to count every inhabitant in 2020, we have the Constitutional power and access needed for near 100% deportation.
I’m for compromise and know the value of compromise, but understand well who is illegal and that lots of illegals can be deported before January 20th, 2021.
I want the “anchor baby” clause out of the Constitution.
I want tax caps in the Constitution.
“Not necessary.
“Section 5 of the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to declare that anchor babies are not what is stated in Section 1.”
I want it removed - so a Democratic Congress can’t easily restore it.
My proposal doesn’t block absolute Democratic control of the US government.
“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside...nor shall any State...deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
....
Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article”
The debacle of the Defense of Marriage Act proves Constitution repeal of the “anchor baby” clause is the only effective course of action.
You mention Republicans. That makes my point you will not get all you want. The Republicans are not on board with all you and I would like to see.
- Get the wall funded and under construction.
A wall by itself doesn’t beat a ladder and a rope, a bulldozer or dinamita
- End visa lottery.
I expect it to resurface in a few years
- Severely curtail legal immigration for three years.
Nearly meaningless since the backlog is substantial
- Suspend chain immigration for three years with exceptions.
Nearly meaningless since the backlog is substantial
- Require E-verify.
E-verify can easily be defeated by using subcontractors and information from nearly identical looking people
E-verify with consumer assisted DHS cross checking might work quite well
- Step up deportations for anyone overstaying their visa
Trump is probably already doing that
- For children brought here illegally, grant them legal resident status but with a provision they must apply for and obtain citizenship withing 2 years
Let’s pick the illegals most likely to vote Democratic and force them to become voting eligible quickly
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