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To: samadams2000; Paladin2

I too am trying to figure this expansion to 1.8 million.

Some of the comments has been to throw things out there to see what the Dems and GOPe would counteroffer. The media and the illegal immigration corwd has been playing the 800,000 number, when they know the number is much larger.

We all know there are millions of illegal immigrants outside of DACA. Depending on which (lies) one reads, it is 8 , 12, 15,...30 million. If “amnesty” is limited to only 1.8 million, chain migration and immigration lottery ended, then the other 6, 10, 13, 28 million illegals will not become Dem voters, and may even be deported. That might be worth it.

I would like to see (1) all eligible DACA persons must renounce their country of origin citizenship - no dual citizenship allowed; (2) applying for a foreign passport after US status - citizenship is granted, is grounds for deportation; (3) voting rights shall accrue 12 years after the wall is completed; (4) No DACA for persons who entered this country after 2012 (5) No more anchor babies.

Unfortunately, the DACA people whom I have seen lately advocating for DACA on television do not appear to have the love for America that one would expect of such persons given a chance to live in the greatest country in the world - it is an extreme entitlement mentality to put it kindly. I am becoming more unsympathetic to their cause as I observe and learn more on this issue.


71 posted on 01/28/2018 5:35:15 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Found a link to this, pretty good explanation:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/956802599159844864.html

1 -Trump Immigration Plan Thoughts 1 - Why are Democrats not jumping to accept Trump’s immigration proposal? Surely 1.8 million illegals is enough for them, right? Well, not so fast.

2 - Trump and the White House have been consistent about this. No criminals, aka no people with public charges will be eligible.

What does this mean? It means 1.8 million is the maximum number, a number that Dems will not even see 50% of

3 - Take that initial 650,000, and pair it down based on the information we have from DACA people. It’s roughly half, so 300-350k. Then multiply that by 2.5 based on the 800k number used for 1.8 million.

You ARE STARTING WITH 750k-900k.

4 - These people, 750-900k have to go through a 10-12 year process of citizenship. They have to pay for it, earn it, learn English, our Government, culture, etc. Oh, and they can’t commit any crimes? So if they can’t do it? They leave.

In the end, you have 375-450k left

5 - On top of only having 375k-450k after 10 years (Not 1.8 million), you have a Big, Beautiful Wall, no Chain Migration problem adding 400k extra legal immigrants per year and no more Visa Lottery program

6 - So again I ask, why are not Democrats not jumping on this?

Because they know it’s bad for them.

But the good news is they won’t accept it until the offer is off the table, and when the deal only gets better for our side

7 - That Nunes memo? And the information it relates to?

When that drops it will be too late for the Democrats to accept Trump’s current Immigration proposal.

Because the Democrat party will be dead by then.


80 posted on 01/28/2018 8:55:53 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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