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To: ealgeone; Claud; aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie; metmom; Mom MD; Mrs. Don-o; Mark17; daniel1212; ...
7“BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED. 8“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.” Romans 4:7-8 NASB μακάριος ἀνὴρ οὗ οὐ μὴ λογίσηται Κύριος ἁμαρτίαν. Romans 4:8 The italicized words in greek are emphatic. It is strongly saying that the Lord will not take into account your sins. The verb λογίσηται, is an aorist, subjunctive, middle verb. The subjunctive is used in Greek to indicate potentiality. In Greek, emphatic negation is indicated by οὐ μὴ plus the aorist subjunctive or sometimes the future indicative. This is the strongest way to negate something in Greek. When combined with the subjunctive this denies a potentiality. (Daniel Wallace, Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics, p468). In this passage from John where Jesus is comforting Martha after Lazarus has died we see a beautiful example of this. The bolded words are emphatic pronouns. The red and the underlined is the negation we've been discussing. 23 λέγει αὐτῇ ὁ Ἰησοῦς· ἀναστήσεται ὁ ἀδελφός σου. 24 λέγει αὐτῷ °ἡ Μάρθα· οἶδα ὅτι ἀναστήσεται ἐν τῇ ἀναστάσει ἐν τῇ ἐσχάτῃ ἡμέρᾳ. 25 εἶπεν αὐτῇ ὁ Ἰησοῦς· ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ἀνάστασις καὶ ἡ ζωή· ὁ πιστεύων εἰς ἐμὲ κἂν ἀποθάνῃ ζήσεται, 26 καὶ πᾶς ὁ ζῶν καὶ πιστεύων εἰς ἐμὲ οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃ εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα. πιστεύεις τοῦτο; 27 λέγει αὐτῷ· ναὶ κύριε , ἐγὼ πεπίστευκα ὅτι σὺ εἶ ὁ χριστὸς ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ὁ εἰς τὸν κόσμον ἐρχόμενος. 23Jesus said to her, “Your brother will rise again.” 24Martha said to Him, “I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day.” 25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?” 27She said to Him, “Yes, Lord; I have believed that You are the Christ, the Son of God, even He who comes into the world.” John 11:23-27 NASB Jesus is making a clear unequivocal promise to her that the one believing in Him will never, ever die. For the one believing this, their eternal security is rock solid. Martha had been a believer as evidenced by her confession. Like Martha, I believe in Him. I'm taking Him at His word. The question is.....do you believe the words of Jesus in v25-26?

Indeed: those who believe in the Lord Jesus for salvation by living faith will never realize the second death, though he will given an account for how he lived out his faith at the judgment seat of Christ.

And because the just shall live by faith, which purifies the heart in the washing of regeneration, (Acts 10:43; 15:8,9; Titus 3:5) Scripture warns believers as believers against having an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God, drawing back unto perdition, back into bondage, making Christ of no effect, to no profit, falling from grace, etc., (Hebrews 3:12; Hebrews 10:38,39; Galatians 5:1-5) thus forfeiting what faith appropriated .

And which seems to be the sin of having "wickedly departed" (2 Samuel 22:22) from the Lord, which David could say he never did despite his sins, and having committing the "great transgression," (Psalms 19:13) which he prayed against, and thus being unable to repent, reprobate, (2 Corinthians 13:5; Hebrews 6:1-9)

Thus God works to chastens wayward members to repentance, unto "Godly sorrow" which "worketh repentance unto salvation" (2 Corinthians 7:10) lest they be condemned with the world, (1 Corinthians 11:32)​

501 posted on 01/30/2018 11:00:40 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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502 posted on 01/30/2018 11:08:35 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Q is Baron Trump, time-traveling back from the future, to help his dad fight the deep state.)
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Can wayward members gain salvation if they do not repent of their sins?

No offense meant--- I can be quite a windbag myself --- but I'm looking for a short answer here.

504 posted on 01/30/2018 12:37:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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