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Medical Marijuana Debate?
Townhall.com ^ | January 25, 2018 | Steve Sherman

Posted on 01/25/2018 8:34:31 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/25/2018 8:34:31 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I can respect an argument made on Constitutional grounds that this is not a federal matter and that it should be left to the several states.

I can respect an argument that says government (state or federal) should not declare that plants found in nature are “illegal”.

I do not respect arguments which are sob stories. “Waaaaah! My Dad has Parkinsons! Waaaaah! Change your drug policy! Waaaaah!”

I’m not opposed to giving this guy what he wants. But the constant victimhood approach to politics now earns my constant scorn.


2 posted on 01/25/2018 8:42:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Kaslin

There is a lot going on in this country right now; the pot battle is a small, but significant, fight for liberty.

Pot doesn’t help everyone. It does help some people, probably a lot more then is realized.

It seems a little ridiculous to allow people access to cigarettes and booze but draw a line at pot, which is provably and demonstratably less dangerous then cigarettes or alcohol.

Live free or die.


3 posted on 01/25/2018 8:43:52 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: Kaslin

I thought marijuana was “medical” by fiat (a fiat medicine). Thus there is no debate. It’s “settled science.”


4 posted on 01/25/2018 8:44:34 AM PST by Prolixus (Drain the swamp!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Just in the cases of a few people I know who have used medical marijuana, it’s effects are far from placebo. This stuff works. And works well.

The comical part was when my friend showed such amazing recovery results after his chemo therapy for stage four cancer, when he told the doctor it was due to the medical marijuana he was using, the doctor got so angry he became almost physically violent. Something is going on here.


5 posted on 01/25/2018 8:50:38 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Kaslin

Just in the cases of a few people I know who have used medical marijuana, it’s effects are far from placebo. This stuff works. And works well.

The comical part was when my friend showed such amazing recovery results after his chemo therapy for stage four cancer, when he told the doctor it was due to the medical marijuana he was using, the doctor got so angry he became almost physically violent. Something is going on here.

Edit: I forgot to mention. My friend’s amazing recovery meant he didn’t have to go through some very expensive follow up procedures. :)


6 posted on 01/25/2018 8:51:22 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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the doctor got so angry he became almost physically violent
Do you know the difference between doctors and God?
God doesn't think he's a doctor.
7 posted on 01/25/2018 8:55:03 AM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Kaslin

As someone who began using cannabis in 2015 for medical reasons & has experienced a dramatic improvement in my quality of life, I 100% agree with candidate Trump.

It’s an issue for the states to decide. Not Fedzilla.


8 posted on 01/25/2018 8:56:39 AM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: dainbramaged

:-D


9 posted on 01/25/2018 9:00:10 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: ping jockey

My comment has NOTHING to do with any disease.

My comment is about the rhetorical technique of victimhood. I oppose that method of political blackmail.


11 posted on 01/25/2018 9:07:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Kaslin

I have lived in Washington State my entire life and had a 25 year career responding to emergency medical calls. Legalization of marijuana has been nothing short of a nightmare where we live. It became legal for “medicinal purposes” long before it was legal for recreational use. That was nothing but a sick joke... absolutely anyone could recite the correct words to a quack doctor recommended by their local pot shop and then purchase marijuana.

I know dozens of people who have been using marijuana since their teens. Nearly all of them have problems related to their usage.


14 posted on 01/25/2018 9:18:51 AM PST by fireman15
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To: ping jockey

I doubt any prosecutor would charge a 70 yr old battling Parkinsons with smoking or possessing pot. Just buy it and smoke it if it helps.


15 posted on 01/25/2018 9:20:35 AM PST by cornfedcowboy
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“Marijuana use was also linked with a variety of factors known to increase cardiovascular risk, such as obesity, high blood pressure, smoking and alcohol use. After researchers adjusted the analysis to account for these factors, marijuana use was independently associated with a 26 percent increase in the risk of stroke and a 10 percent increase in the risk of developing heart failure.

“Even when we corrected for known risk factors, we still found a higher rate of both stroke and heart failure in these patients, so that leads us to believe that there is something else going on besides just obesity or diet-related cardiovascular side effects,” Kalla said. “More research will be needed to understand the pathophysiology behind this effect.”

http://www.acc.org/about-acc/press-releases/2017/03/09/14/05/marijuana-use-associated-with-increased-risk-of-stroke-heart-failure

https://www.livescience.com/56264-heavy-marijuana-use-may-damage-the-brain.html


16 posted on 01/25/2018 9:27:20 AM PST by fireman15
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I would not wish my dad’s illness on anybody, but I wonder if Attorney General Sessions would change is bulldog stance on medical marijuana if the next time he put his pen to paper he noticed a slight tremor in his hand. Nobody should take one of the most promising medications away from those who suffer.

Complete and total crap. IF pot WERE an effective medicine pharmaceuticals would be all over it. They already have THC based medicine but none are recommended for Parkinsons as far as I know.

The bottom line is that Parkinsons DOES have effective medicines. Much more effective then smoking pot with far fewer side effects.

See this link from the Mayo Clinic or read numerous other pages for REAL Parkinson's treatments.

The author of this piece is just using his dad's disease to further the pro-legalization's (LEFTIST) view of pot.

17 posted on 01/25/2018 9:32:59 AM PST by DouglasKC
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If the active ingredients in marijuana is a valid treatment for certain ailments then drug companies can and will go through the normal procedures to get it approved through the FDA. There is no reason or need for the states to be subverting federal restrictions. This current “legalization” effort is a complete farce and anyone familiar with FDA regulations and procedures can tell you so. Marijuana has been proven to be effective under only certain conditions for certain maladies in clinical studies. When the risks are factored in... most legitimate drug companies want nothing to do with it.


18 posted on 01/25/2018 9:35:47 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

You’re talking to ma about drugs and FDA approval and sickness. My comment was about none of that stuff.

The rhetoric of “I’m a victim, so I win the argument” is distasteful to me. That’s all I’m saying.


19 posted on 01/25/2018 9:38:35 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree with you 100%. This argument has nothing to do with illness or effective medication. It is only about marijuana advocates claiming that it is a cure for basically any medical problem and that is why it should be “legalized”. If it were an effective treatment for various maladies with no nasty side effects drug companies would be all over it.


20 posted on 01/25/2018 10:09:31 AM PST by fireman15
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