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Scott signs pot legalization bill (Vermont)
wcax ^ | Jan. 22, 2018 | Neal Goswami

Posted on 01/23/2018 10:56:56 AM PST by bgill

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To: bgill

How leftist of this Governor/these states.


61 posted on 01/23/2018 12:59:48 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

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>> “They aren’t going to carry while high anyway” <<

Bovine excrement!

Tokers are often fascinated by guns.
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62 posted on 01/23/2018 1:03:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TheStickman; little jeremiah

Why criticize the messenger who states a factual message?

He stated what’s going on in his state, since legalized weed passed, and that it can now happen in this state/other states who pass this, as well.


63 posted on 01/23/2018 1:05:59 PM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: sargon
“The only thing worse than decriminalization—is criminalization. Rehabilitation, not incarceration. “ —— Whoa, you said, “Rehab.” If pot is not addictive then you should say something more like, “No charges, not incarceration.” Or maybe something that rhymes and is catchy. Otherwise you are inferring that pot is addictive and pot addicts need rehab and not jail (which misd pot possession wont give you jail anyway, but why harsh the fun). But Im sure you will unite with me on some fun slogans, like: “Legalize Heroin and Cocaine. Take away all that pain. Give me freedom, not statism! 10thA rights!!” Amirite? Stand with me, brother, as we unite to take the next positive step towards freedom(!) and expanding the core Conservative value of recreational drug use through the legalization of heroin and cocaine!! Just THINK of the tax revenues...
64 posted on 01/23/2018 1:15:04 PM PST by Noamie
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To: TheStickman

Well, since you’ve brought up the topic, I do think that you’re being stupid. By getting an MJ card, you’ve identified yourself as a habitual user of MJ and as such you’ve put your firearms and other rights at risk.

i have no problem with people using MJ for medical purposes or recreational purposes so long as they accept the risks inherent in that conduct. I’m not convinced that MJ is medically beneficial, but I’m perfectly fine with people making that decision for themselves.

All that said, current laws do limit habitual users from exercising their firearms rights. I don’t happen to agree with that, but that is the reality. If that’s a devil’s bargain you’re willing to make, so be it. But from my perspective that’s a stupid move.


65 posted on 01/23/2018 1:21:30 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: Jane Long; little jeremiah

“Why criticize the messenger who states a factual message?”

Because I don’t believe what he said is factually correct. :)


66 posted on 01/23/2018 1:23:12 PM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Neither does alcohol or any other mind altering chemical. Anyone who goes out in public drunk, drugged or otherwise impaired is a danger, armed or otherwise.

We should not criminalize everyone for any potential behavior by one or a few in a free society.

How about we legalize pot and get the Big Pharma pills off the market. Oh, that's right... you can grow pot in your backyard.

67 posted on 01/23/2018 1:29:43 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: TheStickman; Jane Long

I don’t wish it on the people of VT, it’s just a factual inevitability, happens every time it’s tried. “A few” plants will turn into huge illegal grow ops run by criminals.

And since you don’t believe my reports of my area, you are obviously blinded by dope and your addiction to it.

Have fun losing brain functioning! All fun and games until it isn’t.


68 posted on 01/23/2018 1:30:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“By getting an MJ card, you’ve identified yourself as a habitual user of MJ”

Actually, I’m identified as having a condition that makes me eligible to use cannabis medicinally.

“and as such you’ve put your firearms and other rights at risk.”

Really? You know of a house to house searches too?

“I’m not convinced that MJ is medically beneficial, but I’m perfectly fine with people making that decision for themselves.”

It’s certainly proved medically beneficial to me. In January 2015 I was very close to being institutionalized for severe depression & anxiety. I weighed 289lbs & was a miserable blob of crap with no hope for things to ever improve. In February I started using cannabis in small amounts & the depression vanished plus the anxiety is now rare to non-existent. I weigh 207 lbs & walk 2-4 miles a day, weather permitting.


69 posted on 01/23/2018 1:30:35 PM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: little jeremiah

“I don’t wish it on the people of VT, it’s just a factual inevitability, happens every time it’s tried. “A few” plants will turn into huge illegal grow ops run by criminals.”

As usual, you make claims you cannot back up with evidence of any kind. What you profess isn’t happening in Taxsachusetts or Washington DC and its been legal to have & grow there for a few years now.

“And since you don’t believe my reports of my area, you are obviously blinded by dope and your addiction to it.”

I don’t believe anything Jake Tapper says either, little one. I guess cannabis has blinded me there as well, right? Figures you’d start with a fallacy lol.

When you actually can validate your hysterical claims about what’s happening in your area I will believe you. But since you notoriously push fallacy as fact AND you never have any corroborating evidence to share to validate your claims in any way shape or form I think you’re just another angry prohibitionist troll looking for attention.


70 posted on 01/23/2018 1:42:46 PM PST by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Lagmeister

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>> “How about we legalize pot and get the Big Pharma pills off the market” <<

I’m game!

But about 1 in 10 FReepers think Pharma poison is A-OK!
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71 posted on 01/23/2018 1:47:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you’re of the opinion that if we let “tokers” own firearms, that there will be “blood running in the streets? .”

I’ve heard that line before. Every time a state considered passing a shall issue law, the gun grabbers would appear like locusts, claiming that allowing mere citizens to carry firearms would cause “blood to run in the streets.” We’re at I think 45 states with shall issue or Constitutional carry. And those rivers of blood have yet to materialize.

Are there any studies or statistics that you can cite that indicate that the rate of violent crime, particularly involving firearms, has increased in CO or WA since legalization?


72 posted on 01/23/2018 1:48:15 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: TheStickman; little jeremiah

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>> “As usual, you make claims you cannot back up with evidence of any kind. What you profess isn’t happening in Taxsachusetts or Washington DC and its been legal to have & grow there for a few years now.” <<

Gee gosh! - Where would you grow enough to matter in DC?

There is ample evidence just about everywhere else its been tried!

Some jerk bought the property across the road from our ranch for about twice what it was worth about a year ago to make a pot plantation. As soon as word got around we had every crook from Stockton to Madera swarming around on ATVs swiping everything that wasn’t anchored to the ground.

In a county that has only 12 sheriff deputies on duty normally, we suddenly had three of them in our area constantly just writing reports.
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73 posted on 01/23/2018 1:59:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RKBA Democrat

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>> “So you’re of the opinion that if we let “tokers” own firearms, that there will be “blood running in the streets?” <<

I see that you’re a Democrat running for office!

Quote yourself! You sure don’t pay any attention to what anyone else posts!
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74 posted on 01/23/2018 2:02:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TheStickman

Here is an article on it. Your life, your risk.

http://www.wftv.com/news/local/medical-marijuana-and-gun-ownership-an-illegal-combination-florida-representative-says/656513556


75 posted on 01/23/2018 2:10:07 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

LOL Hilarious!


76 posted on 01/23/2018 2:25:30 PM PST by TigersEye (#ReleaseTheMemo)
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To: editor-surveyor

No, I’ve come to loathe politics and have no interest in running for office whatsoever.

Am I misstating your argument? You seem to be concerned that legalizing MJ will cause undue risk with firearms. You’re obviously passionate about the subject and well versed. So please, enlighten us. Have you been able to find a study or statistic that indicates that MJ legalization has resulted in an increased risk of firearms violence? I can’t find such a study, but perhaps you’re aware of one?


77 posted on 01/23/2018 2:25:31 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: editor-surveyor; little jeremiah

Haha I’ve detailed my area and what is going on here in numerous threads. You want photos and live action video?

Call up the county sheriff’s office here, they’ll tell you, or the fire chiefs in my county.

We have so few sheriffs they can’t do anything about the crime, it takes 30-45 minutes even for a gunshot victim, of which we have more and more. What to speak of other crimes. OSP helps sometimes, but it is totally lawless out here.


78 posted on 01/23/2018 2:26:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: editor-surveyor

Tokers are fascinated by a box of Oreos. Drunks get angry and want to go “shoot some Sum’b*tch!”


79 posted on 01/23/2018 2:38:09 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: editor-surveyor

That is because of the limited legality. Growing pains... (quality juxtaposition of phrase there).


80 posted on 01/23/2018 2:41:06 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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