Posted on 01/21/2018 7:01:19 AM PST by Kaslin
Huggy Bear accused of improper and unwanted hugging. A new charge against an important elected official. This one stunned me so deeply I called his office because I have known Huggy Bear for 20 years and I could not imagine him doing anything untoward to a woman. I offered to defend him though he is of the other political persuasion.
Huggy Bear is Bob Hertzberg, currently a state senator in California and former speaker of the Assembly. Everyone knows that Bob is a hugger. Bob would hug a parking enforcement person giving him a traffic ticket. One person I know accused him of thrusting his groin into her. Two others accused him of unwanted hugs. Now Bob, who does not to my mind really have anything for which to apologize, will have to get a written release before hugging someone.
Yes, matters have gotten way out of hand in our raging sex scandal deluge. A perfect example occurred at our recent family Hanukkah party. Our employee at the business my son and I operate came to the party and was excited; it was her first Hanukkah party. When things were winding down and people were leaving I was standing at the door wishing them good tidings and hugging everyone except when it came to her. It felt odd and I am not sure how she perceived it, but I did not hug her on her way out. It was a very un-Jewish thing to do (not hug).
Matters have gotten so out of control that during this recent Christmas season there were suggestions that the 1944 Christmas classic, Baby, It’s Cold Outside, encouraged sexual misbehavior. The song which was written by Frank Loesser (think Guys and Dolls) won the Academy Award for best original song. The silly season has reached a peak when people suggest this encourages date rape.
Not enough has been discussed regarding what men think about this whole explosion of sex-charged innuendoes and mea culpas. Certainly, we are not the victims of this perverse behavior, but some of us are victims in another way. It is the perception that most or all of us are guilty.
You may have heard this before, but almost every normal, healthy heterosexual male, once we achieve puberty, constantly think of women and sex. Possibly it is something that we have never progressed beyond the rest of the animal kingdom, but it is what it is, and we accept it. But, most men in our society never, ever act upon that. Sometimes we flirt or make passes and we always look. That goes both ways -- especially today where women have become more open to starting interplay between males and females.
I have spoken to many males about this, many of them peers chronologically. With many of these reported incidents like Harvey Weinstein, we find his and their behavior bizarre and disgusting and potentially illegal. If the charges are accurate against some of these men (Charlie Rose and/or Louie C.K.) of exposing themselves to women in questionable situations, we think these people are animals. What would ever get into their heads to think that was acceptable behavior? Let me give you a hint, Senator Franken: grabbing a posterior of a female, unless maybe if she is your wife, is just nuts. Who does this crap? What planet are you on?
I spoke to a psychiatrist friend of mine who made three points. These bizarre actions have nothing to do with sex. It is often cited by people that rape is more about power than sex, but so is this alleged behavior exhibited by people like Louis C.K. Another point the psychiatrist made is that these people have been sick for a long time. The position they achieved in their career just provided them a chance to act it out.
The last point which you may have concluded by now is these are very insecure individuals. One might think since they have achieved either such prominence or in other cases such positions of power these individuals would be confident individuals, but at least in regard to this area of their lives they feel a high level of insecurity. In my mind, that probably spills over to other areas of their lives.
As for me, I get offended when a peer refers to their staff person as the “girl in their office.” Are you living in another century? This a grown woman supporting herself and/or her family; she is not your “girl.”
It was probably high time we went through this catharsis. There are some men in influential positions that acted as pigs and deserved to be outed. But we need to get to a place where we start to swing to a proper medium rather than lumping in some of the mildest behavior with sick and illegal behavior. People are having their lives destroyed without a proper review of their actions or a fair hearing.
This standard was established during the Obama administration with their guidelines for college campuses. Young men were having their lives ruined without due process. We want to protect young women from aggressive sexual behavior and the fear they are going to be accused for just mentioning the improper behavior, but taking the constitutional rights away from a young male is not the right prescription for the disease.
We need to begin to search for an equilibrium before we completely destroy communication between the sexes. Here are a few items to think about:
1. Grabbing a women’s backside is always improper, but doing it in a social situation is a lot different from doing it in a work environment. One is rude behavior, the other is illegal.
2. Inducing a person to have sex with you in exchange for something to do with one’s livelihood is always improper unless the person is a hooker or a gigolo. We know it is a power thing, but how amazingly stupid to expose yourself in such a manner. They obviously thought they could get away with it, but now their reputations are destroyed.
3. We have to, as a society, begin to separate these actions. They are not all the same. I never liked Al Franken and never thought he was funny and thought his cronies stole his seat from a fine and honorable man – Norm Coleman. Yet, I believe he was railroaded and should have been given due process. The charges I read and the pictures I saw were stupid or childish, but not a crime. He certainly should not have been lumped in with Charlie Rose or Matt Lauer.
Until we begin to swing the pendulum back and analyze these sex scandals with the points above in mind, we will have some innocent people hurt and the relations between men and women will be like walking on eggshells.
To my thinking, thank God I am happily married and not looking for someone while maneuvering through the minefield of relationships today.
AKA “The Truth About Rumors...”
What sex scandals?
That sounds about like it.
The made up ones.
Sorry. But when women go in public purposely displaying their charms, they are either hypocritical or hopelessly stupid when they object to the way men react. Social custom and rationality requires restraint and decorum but Darwinian Law is always present. Women who dress in a sexually provacative manner are in essence demonstrating their propensity to procreate. The response in men, while often crude, is biologically based.
This dissertation should make women aware-——men are always on the hunt. Him coming on to her has nothing to do with her charming personality, designer dress, underarm deodorant or shiny hair.
Think back to when Monica Lewinsky naively asked horndog Clinton if the BJ’s were only about sex....or did he have an interest in her.
i’m aware! Modern Family would not be a hit tv show if Sophia Vergara looked like hillary.
LOL.....good one.
Sex was not invented in the 1960s but all rules about proper behavior were repealed. Woman led the Sexual Revolution, today’s women are reaping what their Grandmother’s sowed.
Always thought the phrase “my eyes are up here” was the most clueless thing women say. Even Jimmah Cawtuh looked...
A long, meandering, logic flaw masquerading as thoughtful philosophical analysis.
, I get offended when a peer refers to their staff person as the “girl ...”
Here’s where I am on this: If the above bothers you you’re stupid. If you don’t notice the gigantic irony of”strong women” sweating an affectionate colloquialisim you’re stupid. If as an adult I have to know and hew to a bunch of crap that you make up depending upon you’re mood you’re stupid. If in a normal working environment you can’t handle what I can easily handle you’re stupid.
If you don't want us to window shop, then don't display the merchandise.
I learned as a girl that men were only interested in sex. I had some reason to believe that. But then when I accepted that as a confused young woman, it wasn’t that simple. And now that I spent a lot of years raising boys to men, I see that it is not that simple. I’d accept that when men were interested, that it was only hormones and sex, but then they would get attached or fall in love and I felt trapped. I don’t think men are only about sex, even though sex is a huge deal. Men are more complicated than just sex machines.
Even BJ Clinton went and got gifts for Monica. Clearly, at the very least, even a rapist perv like him got attached to her and wanted to create an appearance of attachment to her. He could have moved on to the next groupie with knee pads, but he stuck with her until she became quite the liability. Of course then he was probably planning to disappear her, but that leaves the whole sex thing behind a bit...
You're being too kind. The Clintons are very calculating. Everything they do is to protect their political ambitions.
REALITY CHECK With Hillary lurking in the bgrnd, the two surmised Monica was going to give them problems. They needed to invent ways to head her off.....Bill even told her he was going to get divorced after his term was up as a way to control her.
I would not be surprised to learn Hillary bought the book and other gifts Bill gave Monica "as a token of his affection."
Consider that Bill was a busy man that craved sex (must be priapac). He had limited time but calculated that airhead Monica was good for a fifteen minute BJ.
Fifteen minutes? Monica was really deluded.
In the war between the sexes, women better learn to defend themselves against the powerful emotions unleashed in the male sex drive.
Men want sex....women want love....its hard to distinguish the two powerful emotions when in the throes of a relationship.
Thanks Kaslin. I like my idea better -- sign a pledge to a declaration that I'll keep my pants zipped and hands off women's asses, but that when wrongly accused, I'll switch the heads on the bodies of the accuser and her lawyer.
Definitely Monica was deluded. Like all the other 21 year old women who’d already had affairs or been abused by older men. She tried to “catch” the Prez and that one was pretty easy.
But I don’t think scheming Hill wanted him ever to “hit” the same woman twice or buy anyone gifts or get anyone hung up on him. Any complications hurt her plans. Her PI and hitmen took away form her profits and time planning.
Honestly, my opinion of Bill psychologically is that he was fatherless, all kinds of emotional things come with that, and then his mother was a whore, and he saw her with way too many nasty men, and so he definitely thought women were there like flowers for the picking for him. But he did want to be believed and loved, from that same upbringing. Think of how much effort he put into his lies, to have the American people buy them and love him.
So for what it was worth, he probably got off on the girl “falling in love” with him. Thus the gifts. And he was off his game re DNA. Which probably did save monica’s Life. There would have been a White House intern disappearance.
.....psychologically Bill was fatherless, laden with all kinds of emotional things; his mother was a whore, and he saw her with way too many nasty men, and so he definitely thought women were there like flowers for the picking for him.
Ouch.
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OH NO---TELL ME YOU DID NOT SAY THIS LIBERAL BULLCRAP
.....Bill wanted to be believed and loved. Think of how much effort he put into his lies, to have the American people buy them and love him.
NOTHING---I MEAN N_O_T_H_I_N_G-----could be further from the truth. Bill's dysfunctional upbringing implanted in him a pathology the likes of which we've never seen before in an individual. He is calculated to the nth degree----a born con man.
Your comments illustrate how good he is----the reason they're called "con men" is that they work very hard to gain your confidence.
That he did.
I think I didn’t express myself well. He is a malignant narcissist just like his wife and his “pal” Obama. But within his world, clearly, unlike the other two, he was still thinking he could APPEAR lovable or likable and believable and that seemed to matter to him.
I’m sad you think I was spouting liberal bull crap. Even murderers and rapists have internal motivations.
I always found his lying to us of quite a different character from Obama’s and it fascinated me. Obama read the words off the prompter with the attitude of a naughty teen coming home at 2 am. The attitude of, I’m lying to you now, you know I’m lying, I know you know, and I don’t give a flying.
Bill seemed to put a ton of effort into getting his adoring public to believe his lies were true; it was a distinction that matches with his persona (you are the only person in the room to him, etc). I actually think he wanted his victims to think as highly of him as possible.
Thinking like this doesn’t make me leftist. I know he agreed to various convenient suicides, I know he treated our country like a hotel towel. Also bad analogy, more like a hotel Kleenex. I know he belonged in a penitentiary before he ever was elected president.
And yes, a con man from day one. I agree with your assessment except of me as a touchy feely lefty.
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