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To: Michael van der Galien

As these talks progress it’s becoming more and more clear that SPD has the upper hand. Merkel on the verge of doubling down on her betrayal of Germany with a further lurch to the left.


2 posted on 01/18/2018 8:07:13 PM PST by KyCats
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To: KyCats

I would offer the observation that the SPD held basically a ‘pair of twos’ in their hand and they’ve run into rough times the past seven days.

What came out of the talks was a 28-page agreement ‘draft’ that the CDU-CSU and SPD folks could agree upon. If you look at the past three elections and the coalition agreements that came to exist....they were normally 120-pages in length (average). It’s an extreme marginal amount of agreement.

So the SPD had to take the draft and get their internal leadership and the youth-SPD group (everyone under the age of 35) to vote on it and agree. Shocking, but the youth-SPD folks have dumped big-time negativity on the agreement....lots of stuff missing. From the overall party, it’s a mixed signal. There’s supposed to be a big meeting this weekend, and a final vote within the Party. Some folks think it will just marginally pass. Some suggest the coalition won’t occur, then going to option B or C.

Option B is a minority government, with very weak paths ahead (run just by the CDU-CSU folks). It might last a year...maybe two. It would be a big negative upon the EU scene.

Option C is a second vote. The CDU-CSU machine might be able to repeat it’s 32-percent win. The SPD has suffered in public view the last hundred days, and would NOT repeat it’s 20.5-percent win....dropping probably down to 18-percent. What would a second election give you? Basically a repeat of this mess that you have currently and really make a lot of Germans frustrated with the political mess created.

My belief is that the SPD just wants to get some marginal agreement worked up, pretend to do a coalition for twelve months and then force a new election with a happier agenda.

It’s safe to say that politics in Germany is now pretty screwed up, with most Germans agreeing that it’s time for Merkel to move on, but finding there’s practically no one that they really feel can sit in the Chancellor’s seat. The top two parties (CDU and SPD, center-right and center-left) are losing voters in practically every election and don’t have a message that sells well. Toss in the migration problem, lack of affordable housing, yearly tax-chat-reform, and a dozen-odd problems facing society...you’ve got a soap-opera-like atmosphere.


4 posted on 01/18/2018 9:38:50 PM PST by pepsionice
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