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Uh-oh! We are not going to make the same mistakes that Obama/Hillary did, but we are going to make Assad "leave power?" What if Assad gets Russia to put 50,000 troops and heavy weapons in Syria?

I am hoping that Tillerson is either making a dumb statement or Trump is going to oppose this nonsense.

1 posted on 01/18/2018 9:11:24 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

On NPR this morning they were trying to make the case that it “may” violate international law. What was funny was that I had to turn it off because they said “may” just one time too many. It literally sounded of desperation.


2 posted on 01/18/2018 9:12:39 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Liz; GOPJ; NFHale; ColdOne

See #1


3 posted on 01/18/2018 9:13:31 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Mozart tells you what it's like to be human. Bach tells you what it's like to be the universe)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This is what I agrued we should have done with IRAQ. That is, do the same thing there we did in Germany and Japan after WWII. The region would have been substantially more stable.


4 posted on 01/18/2018 9:13:35 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
'Securing a successful U.N. peace process, getting Syrian President Bashar Assad to leave power, ridding Syria of Iran's influence and eradicating all weapons of mass destruction in the country.'


5 posted on 01/18/2018 9:15:25 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I don’t know about everyone else, but I’d prefer that announcements about the military be made by SECDEF. If something involves both the State Department and the Department of Defense, both SECDEF and the SOS should be present to make the initial announcement. The State Department has risen to way too much dominance in the hierarchy of government administration, in my opinion, and mistakes caused by its arrogance and bureaucracy have been the cause of way too many problems around the world and at home.


9 posted on 01/18/2018 9:22:58 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

11 posted on 01/18/2018 9:34:43 AM PST by McGruff (If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Do you know how many troops do we have in Syria?


12 posted on 01/18/2018 9:42:06 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

No, a new nation is being established east of the euphrates. The territory includes that formerly Iraq and Syria.

Strictly speaking, there will be no Troops in Syria


13 posted on 01/18/2018 9:46:42 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Why? Let them kill each other.


16 posted on 01/18/2018 9:54:11 AM PST by wastedyears (US out of the UN, UN out of the US.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Dear Mr. Secretary,

0bama messed up for sure, but it was George W. Bush who opened that can of worms. And on false pretenses to boot.

And speaking of Condi, did we ever find out why she was asleep at the wheel as National Security Advisor?


18 posted on 01/18/2018 9:59:10 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

It is not President Trump’s goal to oust Assad. His goal is to kill all ISIS and others of that ilk. By leaving we may open the door for them to rebound.


21 posted on 01/18/2018 10:22:42 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

We have 12 bases within Syrian borders, get them out NOW. President Trump, you vowed to not engage in the same activity as Obama and GW. No more nation building, Syria is just fine the way it is and is NONE OF OUR BUSINESS. We took Libya from a stable country, to one that is filled with ISIS and AlKayda. The weapons were looted and moved into the wars in Iraq and Syria. In fact, ISIS is USUS. We partnered with moderates, who immediately after being trained by our CIA put on the black outfit and went after Assad.


23 posted on 01/18/2018 10:27:35 AM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

This is a good idea, I repeat this is a good idea!! The only problem here may be international law (I’m sure Assad does not want us there). As long as our troops are not dying (as they are not) what does it matter if we station troops in Iraq and Syria? We need to keep a lid on the crazies and this is the way to help stabilize the region. No more ISIS or it’s next generation.

As an aside, if international pressure (it may be unlawful) forces us to get out, we need to keep troops in the area such as Iraq and Kuwait to be a rapid response force to meet potential issues rising. At any rate, we need to stay there to continue to help our only real allies in Syria, the Kurds.

The best way to not fight the next war there is to keep a sizable amount of troops there with the ability to go on the offense rapidly.


27 posted on 01/18/2018 10:52:30 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

We elected Trump to defeat ISIS. Not to remove Assad from power in Syria or occupy Syria. He promised the opposite on that score.


40 posted on 01/18/2018 1:10:07 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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53 posted on 01/19/2018 4:39:31 AM PST by SJackson (The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The idea that withdrawing American troops from Iraq created ISIS is an absurd, Orwellian lie. What created ISIS was the CIA funneling billions of dollars of weapons to Syria. After the Syrian government lost control of large parts of the country to the “FSA,” ISIS revealed itself and numerous local FSA groups pledged allegiance to ISIS and brought their CIA weapons with them.

The neocons who advocated arming terrorists in Syria are trying to push this false narrative.


54 posted on 01/19/2018 12:56:26 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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