[MayflowerMadam]

I suppose most of us have unknowingly “hired” illegals along the way, via subcontractors. It happens, especially if we’re in a distant location and don’t control or notice who shows up to push a broom at a job site.

We’ve built in CA. It would surprise me if some of the contractors and subs HADN’T hired illegals.

[nopardons]

Though a hands on guy, I doubt that Trump supervises ever single job, down to the last jot and tittle, of every project; there's no way he could!

And as I said up thread, sometimes its just easier to pay a fine than fight it; so he did.