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To: iontheball
That's an eloquent and impassioned response, but unfortunately, a tad fanciful and not at all realistic given our current circumstances.

We live in a post-constitutional, full spectrum surveillance state. This isn't 1776 where patriots could organize with a modicum of privacy. 1984 was inevitable - the threat of the technological scientific state was recognized by civil libertarians and welcomed by aspiring tyrants.

FR is a great forum to conduct parlor room debates about good vs evil, self determination, fee will, etc ie the whole range of subjects covering government and philosophy. But what I am suggesting is to consider making a rational, hard choice.

We have the ability to seize upon the foundation so foolishly erected by the left. It's in our hands now - the Hag wasn't necessarily correct when she said they'd all hang. It is so much more critical than that. Establishing spying as legally mandated and sanctioned government activity (you know, national security and enemies, foreign & domestic) is the greatest mistake the uni-party ever made.

What I'm suggesting is for the right to step back, calm down, and recognize what it has been gifted. Don't piss it away on some quixotic quest of revenge and thereby risk electoral blow-back. Instead, force the opposition into the most extreme corners by compromising every center-left-right candidate that opposes MAGA.

113 posted on 01/11/2018 4:53:00 PM PST by semantic
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To: semantic
"We live in a post-constitutional, full spectrum surveillance state. This isn't 1776 where patriots could organize with a modicum of privacy. 1984 was inevitable - the threat of the technological scientific state was recognized by civil libertarians and welcomed by aspiring tyrants. "

You got that right. Your comments remind me of a post I found a while back...Not sure who the author was, but it's in a similar vein. It should be called the "deplorable manifesto"

The way I see the last several decades, whenever the Stupid Party wastes effort on class, dignity, and manners, the Evil Party rams it right up their hineys.

There are things that are so bad that one has a moral duty to say terrible things about them at every opportunity. Liberalism is one of those things. That duty is more important than class, dignity, or manners.

It is long past time for decent people to wake up and realize that when dealing with scumbags, civility is nothing but a self-imposed handicap.

After a hundred million innocent dead in the twentieth century, no liberal is entitled to the slightest consideration, courtesy, or civility. Liberals should be reviled, abominated, spat upon, even beaten, whenever they have the gall to show their faces in the presence of decent people.

We act wrongly when we pretend that liberals have a right to a voice in human affairs. We act wrongly when we fail to excoriate them for the horrors they have wrought, and those they still lust to wreak.

When a human being appears in public with a liberal, at a political debate, for instance, he should preface his remarks with a statement to the effect that the proximity of the liberal is causing his gorge to rise and his flesh to crawl.

It is not humanly possible to say anything sufficiently critical and insulting about liberals and liberalism. Indictment, trial, conviction, sentencing, and execution would be insufficient punishment for their crimes against humanity.

Human beings arise! Computer science will allow a tyranny so complete and horrible that it has yet to be imagined, unless these loathsome swine are stopped.


122 posted on 01/11/2018 5:12:05 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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