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Liberals will tolerate anything. Queers, sex offenders, rapists, even child molesters.

But not conservatives.

Problem is most conservatives (many on this board) wont even tolerate a gay conservative... I thought we were for personal freedoms and choices.

Don't get me wrong, my belief is that it is a sin, but is it our place to punish somebody for that sin or any others?? I personally will leave that to God to deal with as he sees fit... you know, glass houses and all. The way I read the bible we are all sinners and the only basic requirement I have is to accept Jesus Christ as my personal saviour and try to follow his teachings, we are all human, we WILL fail.

Sorry I learned that lesson as a young adult, I met somebody from my little hometown in this big city of Phoenix after I got here and got to know him over a few years as a co-worker. There were about 20 of us in the drafting department and a couple years later, he puts up a sign he is having a Christmas in July party and everybody is invited. My wife came in for lunch one day, saw the sign and said lets go, so I said sure and we told him we were planning to go. Later that day he pulled me off to the side and said there is something you should know, not that I have been hiding it, everybody else here knows, but I don't think you realize I am gay. He was right, it caught me off guard, but it did not make any difference... I had already formed an opinion on who he was and he was for the same things I was except for he was gay... was that reason alone enough to say stay away from me? Not for me, he had never made a pass at me, I assumed because he knew I was not gay! I guess if he had, we would not have been friendly anymore... but he didn't.

That was an important life lesson for me, because few years after we got married, my wife's brother came out as gay... was not a huge surprise by that time because we never saw him with a female, but unless he told people, most anybody he ever dealt with in day to day things would never have known. He was not that in your face gay guy... He is a great guy, would give anybody the shirt off his back. Much more of a business minded person and very conservative in the financial front, he manages a chain of gas station/mini marts and makes good money and does a lot of traveling around the world. He wont talk about how he votes, that is a game to him, leaving me to guess, but I know he wont vote a straight republican ticket.
One thing I do know, is I will never change his mind about anything or be able to show him the lifestyle he is living is wrong in God's eyes by belittling him or making things adversarial... but I might get a chance someday if I just live my life and lead by example... Treat his sister and his family right, maybe he will ask where I get my strength one day or I will know the time is right that I can talk to him rationally and tell him what I believe, if not, I just don't feel like its my place to tell him how I think he should live his life

Where I am going with this, a couple years before our oldest son graduated high school, he was offered the experience of a lifetime, something we could never give him... He had gotten into trouble and kicked out for missing too much school and had to drive himself to a charter school miles away. As an incentive to get back on the right path, my wife's brother told him if he graduated, he would take him on a two week trip to London, Paris and Prague. He did not miss another day, graduated with honors, went on to tech school and ten years later, a pretty damn good diesel mechanic, married with two girls.

I am fairly sure there are many others that would have had a problem with their 18 years old child doing the same thing and that is pretty sad! I know my dad would have, I found it pretty distasteful years ago when they were not going to sell their house to a gay guy, luckily they got an higher offer from somebody acceptable before they had to do something else about it I guess. He also would be beside himself if he knew the condo he stayed in for free that one week he visited was owned by a gay guy, after her brother offered that.