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To: Fhios

As I’ve mentioned in a few prior posts over the course of the past 10 months or so, I had a conversation with Devin Nunes about this several months ago, just prior to his trip to the EEOB. To (hopefully) put a fine point on it:

Lacking a FISA warrant/authorization (a sound assumption, given that the supporting affidavit would expose the FBI’s and DOJ’s intent):

1) The FBI, with the complicity of the DOJ National Security Division (NSD), was engaged in illegal (warrantless) electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign, of which it is entirely capable within the US, or;

2) The FBI and DOJ NSD were making illegal (warrantless) queries (”about queries”) of NSA data to expose conversations of Donald Trump and members of his campaign and transition team.

Option 2 is clearly the most likely and I suspect that the conspirators and participants thought their about queries and unmasking requests would “fly under the radar” at NSA and pose less risk of exposure than an independent FBI surveillance operation or the submission of a FISA affidavit/request for authorization. I would add that, in the aftermath of receiving information via “about queries”, other senior members of the Obama administration - many of whom had little or nothing to do with national security - obtained the results of those about queries and requested the unmasking of the parties involved in those conversations.

This tells us three things: 1) The existence of this illegal intercept “program” was widely known at the highest levels of the Obama administration; 2) Its existence explains why Obama issued an Executive Order authorizing broad access to compartmented information; and 3) The unusual number of “about queries” and requests for unmasking was the subject of ADM Rogers’ visit to President-Elect Trump on Nov. 17th and the reason why Trump transition headquarters was moved the following day.

In my opinion, this is no longer a conspiracy “theory”, but is now a conspiracy CASE in the offing. To coin a phrase we used to use, “Time to crawl up their ass with a flashlight!”


51 posted on 01/10/2018 8:12:20 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: ManHunter

If everything you say is true I cannot for the life of me see why this wasn’t made clear, why did the DOJ and the FBI deny this information.

It’s more than they were just covering themselves or Sessions was recused. Trump knew Nunes new then the gang of eight knew as well as the people doing the illicit 702?

No, I think there is more. when the name is hidden and remains hidden it means the who would be damaging. I don’t believe the who is Obama. I believe the who is British intelligence. That theory was floated very late 2016 and then quickly shushed up.


54 posted on 01/10/2018 8:24:59 AM PST by Fhios
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To: ManHunter

I think your scenario holds a lot of water.

It’s going to get tough while people absorb this. More distractions will be on the way, unfortunately.


86 posted on 01/10/2018 6:01:47 PM PST by Beach333
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To: ManHunter; Travis McGee
Its existence explains why Obama issued an Executive Order authorizing broad access to compartmented information

Has PDJT rescinded this executive order? Allowing every piece of raw data to be shared among the 16 or so intelligence organizations was just a way to make sure things leaked or could be used against the new administration. Stalinist?

90 posted on 01/11/2018 5:46:01 PM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever.)
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