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A financial 'bomb cyclone' is coming for the states in 2018
Washington Examiner ^ | Jan 08, 2018 | Sheila Weinberg

Posted on 01/07/2018 11:14:55 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

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You mean there isn't a bottomless money pot for government to dip in to and exchange money for votes? I never would have guessed.
1 posted on 01/07/2018 11:14:55 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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Tremendous range of funding for state employee pensions from IL and CA (and KY) among the worst with perhaps 45% of the correct funding actually set aside to states like WI where the funding level is over 100%. Critical point - we cannot let the irresponsible states benefit from their neglect of funding by an explicit or implicit federal bailout.


2 posted on 01/07/2018 11:25:18 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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I speculated around 2009 that pot would become legal in most states just for the tax reasons. It has taken a lot longer than I thought, but it is still heading that way.

With a booming economy states need to means test welfare. They can start with drug testing welfare recipients.

Sanctuary states will be forced to adopt a state income tax to collect from those who do not file tax returns.

And finally, interest rates, while still near historic lows, are gradually and necessarily going back up. This will raise the cost of borrowing for states, so they will be forced to cut spending somewhere.

3 posted on 01/07/2018 11:34:46 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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Oh, gee. Guess the states will have to cut back on spending. Breaks my heart.


4 posted on 01/07/2018 11:36:23 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Oh, gee. Guess the states will have to cut back on spending. Breaks my heart.

Won't happen in Democratically controlled states like ours.
5 posted on 01/07/2018 11:39:18 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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They’ll expect the Feds to bail them out, which means us!


6 posted on 01/07/2018 11:46:01 PM PST by Doofer
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Let’s just prepare ourselves.

I think later this month, the US government Census Bureau, will announce that last year, the US ran an all-time high trade deficit with China.

An all time record. Trump and all.

See for yourselves. Extrapolate the numbers, to include one more month.

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

A new record terrible trade deficit.

Just saying.


7 posted on 01/07/2018 11:50:28 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Problem is that entitlements will be the last to go.


8 posted on 01/08/2018 1:02:10 AM PST by D Rider
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9 posted on 01/08/2018 1:08:17 AM PST by McGruff (Lock Her Up! In a Padded Cell!)
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Let the state and local governments starve, they do nothing of value that compensates for their costs. We should start over by firing the lot and starting fresh.


10 posted on 01/08/2018 1:53:59 AM PST by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl. McLame cannot even fake an injury.)
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I have a naive question about govt pension plans: why do they bother with so-called "funded" plans? My understanding (having worked in the pensions biz some years back) was that funded plans were the answer to sponsors going bust: no matter, our liabilities are covered by this separate trust.

But when are the govt. sponsors every going bust?

Instead, "funded" plans have had the opposite effect: they let local and national pols push off hard choices to the following generations. In some cases they also let crooks skim from the pot.

Here's my proposal: each budget year the taxing authority (council, school board etc.) gets told "Here's your total payroll for next year. Figure out how you want to split in between current staff and retirees". The results may be surprising.

11 posted on 01/08/2018 3:05:26 AM PST by Riflema
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Government obligations are backed by the full faith and credit of the printing press.


12 posted on 01/08/2018 3:15:48 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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The “bomb cyclone” consequence is never mentioned.


13 posted on 01/08/2018 4:09:47 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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Like California. Spewing out giveaway programs with the expectation that Uncle Sam would bail them out.

Time to have your hummingbird asses cash the checks your alligator mouths have been writing.


14 posted on 01/08/2018 4:38:11 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Build KateÂ’s Wall! Never Forget!)
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We elected a fiscal conservative, Matt Bevin, governor here in Kentucky. Bevin’s number one job is addressing this problem. I have confidence that we can work out of this mess since we finally have a Republican legislature as well.


15 posted on 01/08/2018 5:33:21 AM PST by hardspunned
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They’ll expect the Feds to bail them out, which means us!

And based on established history of the 2008 banking crisis, we will.


16 posted on 01/08/2018 5:35:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The Republican Kentucky Legislature wants to slap a $1/pack tax on cigarettes. That’s not very encouraging.


17 posted on 01/08/2018 5:37:01 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Prosperity and inflation will provide a remedy for most states.


18 posted on 01/08/2018 5:37:40 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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Time to enact a 1% national sales tax coupled with a 1% reduction in federal spending. All funds collected or savings resulting from a reduction in spending are, by law, to be used for federal debt reduction. This “penny solution” has been proposed before and ignored by Congress but now would be a good time to implement it.


19 posted on 01/08/2018 6:27:28 AM PST by Boomer One ( ToUsesn)
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Folks,

Nothing changes until the money runs out..............

Now what will that look like?


20 posted on 01/08/2018 6:31:16 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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