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To: A_perfect_lady

Heh, you clearly haven’t seen Disney’s Beauty and the Beast, then, because that film had Gaston being completely irredeemable, as bad as one can get (even if it WAS sloppily handled). Still, from Belle’s behavior, she came across as fairly unsympathetic in the movie, acting far more like an SJW feminist than Rey (at least Rey had the excuse of her essentially being a slave in all but name and being forced to work in a waste dump due to her parents ditching her. Belle had a loving dad and she STILL complained just because the village viewed her as “odd”.). And you certainly haven’t seen the Shrek movies either, where most of the villains, at least compared to the ogres, were handsome for the most part.

But yeah, overall, they’ve really done a bad job showing the First Order as appropriately evil and menacing. Okay, they probably were a bit more evil than the Empire due to actually HAVING on-screen atrocities besides blowing up a planet (not to mention actually BEING based on a real life evil group while the Empire was, contrary to popular belief, actually based on America), but not really evil enough. Doesn’t help that the so-called heroes since at least Return of the Jedi dabbled in moral relativism all the time, while the villains are pretty much the only ones who have any REAL standards.


63 posted on 01/06/2018 8:11:34 AM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e
Heh, you clearly haven’t seen Disney’s Beauty and the Beast,(and Shrek)

Yes I have, but I said science fiction. They aren't science fiction, they're myth/fantasy. Different rules.

Still, from Belle’s behavior, she came across as fairly unsympathetic in the movie,

I straight up hate Belle. She's nothing but a little snob. She has a loving father, lives in a beautiful village... she just hates having to work for a living. She's an eye-rolling intellectual (or thinks she is, because she's read a few books.) In fact, all she wants is to read books and be waited on. Of course she's happy in the castle. She gets to read books, be waited on by servants, and everyone makes a fuss over her every minute. She's truly a Democrat.

64 posted on 01/06/2018 8:20:33 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: otness_e
Doesn’t help that the so-called heroes since at least Return of the Jedi dabbled in moral relativism all the time, while the villains are pretty much the only ones who have any REAL standards.

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes!"

Which statement is itself an absolute!

Regards,

80 posted on 01/06/2018 12:59:19 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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