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To: Mom MD

Like I stated doc,
Some people’s emotional identity are so wed to absolute beliefs that it’s not possible for them to consider rational discussion of anything that introduces reconsideration of their orthodoxy.
I reasonably question the value, safety, efficacy / necessity of SOME vaccines and I receive indignant doc huff puffery reply to “go see our patients on ventilators”.
Typical dumb down doc tawk...

No discussion of best guess flu strain vaccine’s piss poor efficacy for actual real world influenza.

Why are so many flu vaccinated individuals hospitalized for flu if the flu shot is so crucial for wellness?

And common practice of NOT identifying actual strain of influenza suspected to have contributed to patient death to determine flu vaccination efficacy.

The state of current influenza vaccine efficacy is ridiculous.


56 posted on 12/30/2017 7:48:19 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

The influenza vaccine is far from perfect but it’s the best we have If one is young and relatively healthy it’s probabiy a wash. For the elderly and chronically ill influenza can be devastating and any chance at preventing or ameliorating it is probably worth it YMMV


58 posted on 12/30/2017 7:53:23 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
The state of current influenza vaccine efficacy is ridiculous.

I can't agree with that. Looking at it from "outside", as I am not a medical professional, and considering it as a technical or engineering type problem, influenza is a very formidable challenge to deal with... The more one knows about it, the more "impressive" the challenge is.

My guess is that we will not reduce influenza to "nuisance level" until we have about 50 years more under our belts with regard to viruses in general, and our immune systems as well, or perhaps when we develop effective, safe, Star Trek type "nanites" to bolster human immune systems.

This barring, of course, some genius level breakthrough, the timing of which cannot be predicted.

60 posted on 12/30/2017 8:32:21 PM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Sincerely, I’ll try to convey a little information to help. First, as you know, the world population is much larger than it has been in known history. More people are traveling great distances to foreign populations. The few “types” of flu viruses might really be better described as general categories for most of us. The number of possible genetic combinations might be...I don’t know!

Flu pandemic plans should be stepped up as number of virus strains jumps, researcher says
By medical reporter Sophie Scott
Posted April 06, 2017 11:28:33
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-06/flu-pandemic-plans-should-be-stepped-up-study-says/8421304


64 posted on 12/30/2017 9:08:31 PM PST by familyop ("You knucklehead! Why yi oughtta!" --Moe, "The Three Stooges")
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Study biology. I couldn’t stand the subject. But there are gobs of people, and lots of them have cooties! ;-)

Those descendants of east Asians know that we humans have cooties. They try to save us from their cooties by wearing masks! I saw them wearing masks at Walmart and thanked them. Nice people! They’re amazing!

So get your anti-cooties shot. ;-)


65 posted on 12/30/2017 9:14:19 PM PST by familyop ("You knucklehead! Why yi oughtta!" --Moe, "The Three Stooges")
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