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To: caww

I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring, and then we’ll have to go in there and clean up - or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.


2 posted on 12/30/2017 11:39:50 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: bboop

Yes, it could lead to Imanutjob getting power again.


4 posted on 12/30/2017 11:41:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bboop
or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.

Have you been paying attention? The Mullahs ARE the really bad guys. They started out with Carter's blessing. Even though Carter pulled the rug out from the Shah, they took the opportunity to take American hostages. The hostages were released the same day Reagan was sworn in as POTUS, since they didn't want to mess with him.

My concern is that President Trump should not encourage them unless he really plans to help them. I'm not sure how that help would occur.

I suspect that the Russians would be the only party who would step in to help the Mullahs. They seem to like dealing with Bad Actors. I suppose that they think that Mullahs make suitable puppets who help to mask Putin's bad intentions.

7 posted on 12/30/2017 11:46:23 AM PST by the_Watchman
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To: bboop

Of course we are..as well as other countries like the Sauds....and all those who know Iran is a bad actor.


11 posted on 12/30/2017 11:50:45 AM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: bboop
"I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring,"

I bet we are, as well as the Saudi's and Israeli's but it isn't sinister, IMHO it is just about letting them communicate.

Notice the word "Covert" in this link:

https://www.axios.com/scoop-u-s-and-israel-reach-joint-plan-to-counter-iran-2520518565.html

Iran-Funding-Hezbolla etc ='s powerful P.A. that won't negotiate peace with Israel. Bring Iran to it's knees, the Middle East gets more stable IMHO. So much of what PDJT is doing is for that ultimate goal and getting rid of all the despots without engagement aka GWB.

FWIW perhaps Iran's leaders are bloated corpse politically, much like East Germany in the 80's and Ceausescu's. At some point people get sick of your chit, liberty is too attractive and they explode from their own rot.

15 posted on 12/30/2017 11:52:51 AM PST by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song of Angry Men!")
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To: bboop

Iran is a direct threat to the US.

We should be doing everything we can to take the mullahs down.

I just ask that - if we had any hand in starting this - we don’t turn tail on these brave people in the middle of the revolution, and that we follow through to the glorious end!


26 posted on 12/30/2017 12:06:26 PM PST by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: bboop

“I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring, and then we’ll have to go in there and clean up - or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.”

I do not see that happening. Lot’s of changes have been going on in the Middle East in 2017 like what is occurring in Saudi Arabia for instance. President Trump and our allies in the Middle East are not afraid to kill all the “Really Bad Guys” unlike Obama.


34 posted on 12/30/2017 12:24:57 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: bboop
I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring ... or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.

You mean guys like the Council of Guardians?

I would love to read about the Iranian people ceaucescuizing them. And, if a certain tweeter turns out to have had a hand in inspiring the event, we should be proud of him!

76 posted on 12/30/2017 3:05:10 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: bboop
”I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring, and then we’ll have to go in there and clean up - or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.”

Having just seen “Darkest Hour” a few minutes ago, the tenor of your words is very familiar. They fit the Chamberlain/Halifax mold perfectly.

As others here have already pointed out, the mullahs ARE the “really bad guys.” I have zero tolerance anymore for Libertarian isolationism. This moment with Iran may well present a golden opportunity to overthrow the Islamist government and thereby avoid what will otherwise inevitably require a brutal war. Iran’s nuclear ambitions are no less dangerous than North Korea’s, and wishing them away or fantasizing about “containment” will not forestall the threat. Their nuclear threat WILL have to be ended, one way or another. Personally, I would prefer to do it by supporting their people in their effort to exterminate the Islamist vermin in their midst.

This situation is not analogous to what Obama and Hillary did to Libya or Egypt. The Iranian people are ALREADY suffering under an Islamist dictatorship (your “really bad guys”). We should expend every effort, both covert and if necessary overt, to support this uprising.

80 posted on 12/30/2017 3:43:35 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: bboop

‘by Really Bad Guys.’


You’re probably speaking about ISIS, but at least ISIS didn’t have the means to blow up the world in a nuclear confrontation. They were also not working with North Korea in a dance of destruction. ISIS is intent upon conquering the entire world for Sunni Islam, but the Mullahs want to destroy the world in the name of Shiite Islam.

Iran is a regime run by Mullahs who believe that their primary purpose in life is to bring on Armageddon and the appearance of the Mahdi. This is a regime that sent young children into mine field with golden keys around their necks, telling them they were on the way to their promised 70 virgins. Most of the children were probably too young to know what a virgin is. I have no idea what they promised the girls.


83 posted on 12/30/2017 4:25:16 PM PST by Yulee
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To: bboop
I hope the US is not stirring this up ala Arab Spring, and then we’ll have to go in there and clean up - or else there will be a vacuum that is filled by Really Bad Guys.

You left off the sarcasm tag. The Really Bad Guys are already in charge in Iran. Obama failed to support the Green Revolution in Iran. Trump is supporting the people. That is a good thing.

103 posted on 12/30/2017 9:33:54 PM PST by kabar
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To: bboop

There was no doubt when Obama cranked up the Arab Spring - this is just Iranian People feeling a bit of hope because of Trump.


128 posted on 12/31/2017 3:47:01 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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