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Activists to copy Illinois 'gay panic defense' ban elsewhere
Associated Press ^ | Dec 28, 2017 10:15 AM EST | Sophia Tareen

Posted on 12/28/2017 4:58:41 PM PST by Olog-hai

Starting in January, Illinois will bar a rare criminal defense allowing the use of a victim’s sexual orientation as justification for violent crime, a ban gay rights advocates say they will attempt to replicate in about half a dozen states next year.

Defense attorneys will no longer be able to mount the so-called “gay panic defense” in Illinois, the second state after California to prohibit the tactic. It isn’t common, but one study shows it has surfaced in about half of all U.S. states and has been used with some success. Advocates say bans are necessary because crimes against gay and transgender people are on the rise, but some attorneys remain skeptical, calling the ban politically motivated and unnecessary because the old-fashioned defense wouldn’t hold up in court today.

After a lackluster attempt in 2016, the Illinois ban sailed through the Legislature in May with no opposition and Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner signed it into law without comment. Supporters called it a major victory for LGBTQ rights — especially as advocacy groups including the Human Rights Campaign report spikes in murders of transgender people — that could provide momentum for change elsewhere. […]

There are variations, but it generally goes like this: A person doesn’t realize someone is gay or transgender and engages in a flirtation, then discovers that person’s sexual orientation and that discovery triggers a passionate involuntary response such as murder.

Advocates point to the beating death of Islan Nettles, a transgender woman who died on a New York City street in 2013. James Dixon, who pleaded guilty and was sentenced last year, flirted with Nettles before realizing she was transgender. He punched her in the face and she fell and hit her head. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: gaypanicban; gaypanicdefense; gaypanicdefenseban; gaystapo; gopestablishment; homofascism; homosexualagenda; informedconsent; lavendermafia; liberalagenda; protectedclass; rauner; rino; victimcard
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To: marktwain

21 posted on 12/28/2017 6:24:17 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Olog-hai

Unless the other person attacks you you have NO right to hit them. These people are very disturbed people and don’t have enough sense to not come on to non-homosexusls.


22 posted on 12/28/2017 6:27:12 PM PST by stockpirate (Give Peas a Chance)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think it was the Jenny Jones show. Could be wrong.

It is truly unbelievable that not too long ago, being homosexual was a shameful thing. Now, it’s “shameful” to be a “homophobe.” They have truly turned this upside-down.


23 posted on 12/28/2017 6:30:48 PM PST by KJC1 (Illegals: One hand out and the other one flipping us the bird)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Interesting. Was this self defense against some kind of assault? If not I would probably call it constructive (often termed 2nd degree) manslaughter.


24 posted on 12/28/2017 6:40:42 PM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: littleharbour

Now, THAT’s a knoife!


25 posted on 12/28/2017 6:44:49 PM PST by thulldud
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To: Olog-hai

http://virtueonline.org/three-acna-bishops-sign-open-letter-opposing-transgender-ideology


26 posted on 12/28/2017 7:14:05 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Olog-hai

http://virtueonline.org/three-acna-bishops-sign-open-letter-opposing-transgender-ideology


27 posted on 12/28/2017 7:14:56 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: NRx

It’s probably more about trannies, a man who picking up a woman, getting a sexual service from her and then finding out she’s a shemale.


28 posted on 12/28/2017 7:23:32 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: KJC1

(s)is this just a step to make it mandatory?(/s)


29 posted on 12/28/2017 8:02:57 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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To: marktwain

Eh, I once was asked to repair some equipment (mechanical equipment!!) in a gay bar. I didn’t know what to expect, but figured the job had placed me in some other strange places (strip joints and what not), so, on a weekday afternoon, it couldn’t be that bad, right? I thought I’d seen a lot...

OMG. The place was about 1/2 full, well lit, and the queers were all over each other. In any other bar (at least in this area, 30+ years ago) they’d have been escorted out for the same sort of behavior between heterosexual couples (if seen - sometimes serious hanky-panky goes on in a dark corner or booth). This not to even include the gay dress and makeup. Maybe some gay bars are a lot more conservative, but... It’s hard to believe this guy you refer to was in a gay bar for more than a minute or so without realizing his mistake...

That was one of the fastest repairs I ever did, and I never went back...


30 posted on 12/29/2017 1:35:57 AM PST by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: nickcarraway
How often is this even used?

2nd paragraph:

It isn’t common, but one study shows it has surfaced in about half of all U.S. states and has been used with some success.

At least, that's what the study alleges.

An actual, concrete figure or at least a percentage would have likewise been appreciated.

Regards,

31 posted on 12/29/2017 1:45:36 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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