No. I'm serious.
Posted on 12/24/2017 1:12:14 PM PST by 3161J410
The Winston Churchill biopic Darkest Hour will feed into the debate around the nature of President Donald Trump’s abrasive, confrontational form of leadership, says Joe Wright, the film’s director. Wright suggests that Darkest Hour, which stars Gary Oldman as the British prime minister during arguably the UK’s most testing period of the second world war, is directly relevant to the US’s current political turmoil.
“There’s a big question in America at the moment: what does good leadership look like,” says Wright,
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“And while Britain deserves MUCH credit in WWII (leadership, monarchy, people and all) —> it’s AMERICA that really had the ultimate victory and seemed to absorb most internally what it really meant to win and what we really fought against.”
Not just fight against* but fight FOR* :) - wanted to clarify.
(continued from above post). I have to say it didn’t occur to me that the movie might have been any kind of commentary on Trump. Maybe a comment on leaders feeling guilty about their sometimes necessary duty to send people to risk their lives in war
As a former NYer, I have followed Trump for years and fully supported him even before he announced.
But it was my hope that he would be a second incarnation of Churchill...and he was and is.
Well it helped that the US didn’t get the crap bombed out of it, like the other warring nations.
That’s interesting...What were our strengths militarily you think?
Russians always tell me that Americans take too much credit for ourselves even though we didn’t lose as many lives...and i’m like...isn’t that the point?
I certainly would NOT have been wanting to fighting under Stalin! He had no care for the lives of his countrymen whatsoever.
Yes, and we were right to think “ugh...after the FIRST World War and the Europeans are at it (mutual self-destruction) AGAIN?”
Though over here you had people going hurrah-hurrah about the Russian Revolution and socialism particularly during the Great Depression and even some Nazi sympathizers.
But most everyone else was isolationist by nature. WHY GET INVOLVED.
Seems to me that he's only abrasive and confrontational to those who deserve such treatment. In the immortal words of "Top Gun's" Goose: "The list is long and (NOT) distinguised."
In short, no.
I always think about how fun it would have been in FR existed in 1939, and all the fun threads with people calling each other “Hitler lovers” and “FDR lovers”. Oh, what fun it would have been, LOL!
omg! i wonder how people would have felt about Hoover on FR...
I like Coolidge personally. So underrated.
And momentous decisions like Truman and the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs...crazy times indeed.
I don’t doubt that. I hope a few minions get jammed up on the Hezbollah assistance program the Kenyan was running.
It’s one of those subjects that always fascinates me, the arguments for or against the war, of course with hindsight we know, but back then I really wonder which side of the fence I would have been on, given what we knew at the time.
No. I'm serious.
I didn’t see a guy in that picture.
Ditto. Both stand ahainst elites & conventional snowflakes
Indeed. At the moment I’m curious about what the Christian perspective of things on the ground in Europe were...I haven’t read Eric Metaxas’ biography activist/pastor Dietrich Bonhoeffer yet...he was part of the Hitler resistance.
I’ve listened to vintage Christmas carols that played on German radio on the eve of or midst of Hitler’s invasions...and to know that even Christians would turn a blind eye to the evil that was about to unfold in their own land, it’s really something...especially as “All is calm, all is bright” played on in German on the radio...eerie.
There is some hindsight criticism about whether America did enough to help the Jewish people in time.
Russia and China took the most casualties in WWII..I think...
Without Britain Europe would have fallen..the U.S. did not have a fighting force for eighteen months
Russia probably killed more Germans than the U.S. and Britain..
It is U.S. war material that won the war...they could not attack us..same with Japan...
Russia and China then went onto launch campaigns of their own self-destruction under Stalin (who we can also thank for the installation of North Korea’s Kim Il Sung regime) and Mao’s Cultural Revolution.
The T-34 won the war for the Soviet Union, it doesn’t matter how many Russians were sacrificed, without it, the Soviets lose the war.
Even when the Germans were routing the Red Army, a German general spotted a T-34 for the first time, and remarked, that if the Russians were building them on assembly lines, Germany would lose the war.
Whatever he thinks, Trump invited the GOP leadership to a White House screening of “The Darkest Hour” two weeks ago while they were finalizing the Tax Bill.
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