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The German Navy Decided To Return Their Bloated New Frigate To The Ship Store This Christmas
The Drive ^ | DECEMBER 23, 2017 | TYLER ROGOWAY

Posted on 12/24/2017 8:18:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

ARGE F125/Lerssen-Defence

Just weeks ago we told the story of Germany's puzzling Baden-Wurttemberg class Type 125 (F125) frigate program. Not only did we discuss the ship's odd mission and design features, but we also highlighted some of the troubling post-delivery issues with the lead ship in the class. These problems include a persistent list to starboard and the fact that the ship is dramatically overweight, which would limit its performance, increase its cost of operation, and most importantly, negatively impact the Deutsche Marine's ability to add future upgrades to the somewhat sparsely outfitted vessel.

Now the German Navy has officially declined to commission the vessel and will be returning it to Blohm+Voss shipyard in Hamberg. The decision to do so was based on a number of "software and hardware defects" according to German media reports. The noted software deficiencies are of particular importance because these destroyer-sized vessels will supposedly be operated by a crew of just 120-130 sailors—just half that of the much smaller Bremen class frigates they replace—continuously for months at a time. On top of that, the design's reliability is paramount as the four ships in the class are supposed to deploy far from German shores for up to two years at a time.

According to Navaltoday.com, this is the first time the German Navy has returned a ship to a shipbuilder after delivery. Baden-Wurttenberg had already missed its planned commissioning date last summer.

Complicating things further is the fact that the fourth and final F125 frigate, the Rheinland-Pfalz, was already christened last Spring. Because of the concurrent construction and testing procurement strategy, these vessels are likely to suffer from at least some of the same issues as the lead ship in the class.

Aside from this troubling situation, Germany is going through some major tribulations with its naval arm, including the embarrassing reality that the country currently has no operational submarines.

We'll keep you updated as the F125 frigate saga continues to unfold.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: f125; frigate; germany; warship
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1 posted on 12/24/2017 8:18:25 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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How could it possibly be that a ship gets finished and they find that it weighs more than they thought?

I build a lot of stuff in my career and we could just pull a total weight right off the CAD system. There was no such thing as a surprise.


2 posted on 12/24/2017 8:22:55 AM PST by billslugg
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Persistant list to starboard...
This calls for an investigation of the Kriegsmarine. Is this un-PC right leaning persitant? Intolerable given the portside leaning of Mutti’s regime.


3 posted on 12/24/2017 8:25:10 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Probably “designed” by a bunch of 3rd world muslims they’ve imported.
Real German engineers are usually pretty damn sharp.


4 posted on 12/24/2017 8:26:04 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Adolf would have had a fit.


5 posted on 12/24/2017 8:27:58 AM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

These problems include a persistent list to starboard and the fact that the ship is dramatically overweight, <<

Captain!!...More lead to port side!...Put the sailors on a strict diet to compensate.....That is All...


6 posted on 12/24/2017 8:29:59 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: immadashell

For a ship that heavy that is a nice turn radius.


7 posted on 12/24/2017 8:31:17 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Delusional - Adjective, Describes a Democrat or member of the MSM)
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To: M-cubed

Rename her “The Eileen”


8 posted on 12/24/2017 8:32:56 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Or sell it to Japan as “The Irene”. :=)


9 posted on 12/24/2017 8:37:30 AM PST by Bob (Damn, the democrats haven't been this upset since Republicans freed their slaves.)
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To: BenLurkin

How about the Merkel?


10 posted on 12/24/2017 8:38:39 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What is the overall mission of the German military?

Muzzie outreach?


11 posted on 12/24/2017 8:38:47 AM PST by samtheman (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
including the embarrassing reality that the country currently has no operational submarines.

No U-boats? Embarrassing? Hell, that's depressing! It's like France without wine.

12 posted on 12/24/2017 8:40:25 AM PST by Oatka
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To: immadashell
Adolf would have had a fit.

For the love of all that is sane, please...no one post a "Hitler Finds Out About The Bloated F125 frigate." video.

13 posted on 12/24/2017 8:40:26 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
For a ship that heavy that is a nice turn radius.

Especially with a starboard list. It’s lucky it didn’t capsize.

14 posted on 12/24/2017 8:42:49 AM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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“the embarrassing reality that the country currently has no operational submarines.“

Wow. Unbelievable no u-boats, none.


15 posted on 12/24/2017 8:44:43 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: billslugg

CAD. That wonder as-designed, as-intended, as-built difference.


16 posted on 12/24/2017 8:46:25 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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17 posted on 12/24/2017 8:48:14 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: billslugg

Too much mit der beer und der schnitzels machen...


18 posted on 12/24/2017 8:51:07 AM PST by Noumenon (Irony: Those who tell us we don't need a border wall whIle living in gated communities.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I wonder if the Turkish workers that were imported to replace Germans had a hand in this?

This is the sort of thing expected from 3rd world nations.

19 posted on 12/24/2017 8:52:19 AM PST by blam
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20 posted on 12/24/2017 8:54:53 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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