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Deadly Amtrak crash and sharp tax cuts suggest Americans’ lack of respect for common good
Seattle Times ^ | 12/20/2017 | Jerry Large

Posted on 12/22/2017 9:41:36 AM PST by MAGA2017

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To: MAGA2017

The two are not related. Except in the mind of an insane liberal.


21 posted on 12/22/2017 9:49:45 AM PST by I want the USA back (Freedom of speech: an illusion that Americans hold fast to, although it disappeared decades ago.)
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To: MAGA2017

Looks to me like the crash was due to having to meet an unrealistic schedule.

I say this because this has been the fate of American truckers driving way too fast to keep up with schedules that cause them to drive without regard to the human driver.

Because businesses have been struggling to survive due to all the regulations on them, and taxes.


22 posted on 12/22/2017 9:52:32 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: MeganC
🚅. Seldom does going into a curve at 80 designed and designated for 30, rarely has good results.
24 posted on 12/22/2017 9:53:03 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

...And can someone tell me why after about 75 years of communist rule, Russia and the East Bloc were cesspools...

Same thing with US cities under decades of Democrat rule.


25 posted on 12/22/2017 9:53:49 AM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: MAGA2017

Oh hell why not, the nation elected Obama twice
It was proven to be a mistake so yeah.
Whatta load of tripe.
Jus fIXIN the Obama mistake you big dumby black Toby reporter! Duh.


26 posted on 12/22/2017 9:54:24 AM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: MAGA2017

Most developed countries have those systems in place, but the U.S. rail system has long been neglected. Many other economically strong countries have high-speed rail systems with trains that travel 200 mph, and their systems are far safer.

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How is it privately run airlines have these safety systems but government run trains don’t?


27 posted on 12/22/2017 9:54:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: thesharkboy

Best comment on the article:

bjornost

one tracked mind... Its an 80 mph “progressive” mind on a 30 mph leftward bound journey to collective ruin...


28 posted on 12/22/2017 9:54:52 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Headline: Muslims Fear Backlash from Tomorrow's Terror Attack - Mark Steyn)
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To: MAGA2017

Stupid argument. The train crash happened on a government funded train, using government funded tracks and government funded engineer, paid for with the current government tax system and it failed.

If the editors of the Seattle Times wished to voluntarily pay more taxes, there’s nothing stopping them.


29 posted on 12/22/2017 9:55:19 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: MAGA2017

I think Jerry Large’s entire paycheck should be confiscated by the government and redistributed by politicians for the good of the children.


30 posted on 12/22/2017 9:56:38 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: MeganC

There’s a high speed rail line from DC to Boston.

I had to go up that way for work a couple weeks ago. The Amtrak train took about 20 minutes less time than driving and cost four times the flight cost.

I had lots of gear so I drove.


31 posted on 12/22/2017 9:57:32 AM PST by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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If the editors of the Seattle Times wished to voluntarily pay more taxes, there’s nothing stopping them.

It's not about them paying higher taxes. It's about using government force to get others to pay higher taxes, as an affirmation of their belief system.

32 posted on 12/22/2017 9:58:26 AM PST by dirtboy
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NTSB: Amtrak train was going 78 mph at impact; crew not using electronic devices

12/22/2017, 8:57:32 AM · by outpostinmass2 · 37 replies
KOMONEWS ^

WASHINGTON, D.C. — An initial review of the data recorders and cameras on board the Amtrak train that derailed in DuPont on Monday suggests the train was going 78 mph in the moments before impact — nearly 50 miles over the speed limit at that location — and that the crew realized the speed was too high moments before, the NTSB announced Friday. Among the preliminary review, investigators concluded that the crew was not observed to be using any electronic devices before the crash, and that six seconds before impact, the engineer made a comment about going too fast.


It was an operator error and had nothing to do with President Trump!

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33 posted on 12/22/2017 9:58:31 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Build Kate's wall! Keep illegals and illegal murderers/criminals out of America! MAGA! SLAP ACT!,)
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Seattle Slimes Editor in Chief
34 posted on 12/22/2017 9:58:39 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: MAGA2017

It’s the taxpayers’ fault the idiot engineer was going almost three times over the speed limit. Got it!


35 posted on 12/22/2017 9:58:56 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: MAGA2017
Japan and France are MUCH smaller geographically, and far more city-centric. Most Americans DON'T want to go from central city to central city. Amtrak in particular isn't really meant to be a commuter train in most areas, as the schedule doesn't allow it.

Even in the Acela corridor, most people in the NYC tri-state area rake Metro North or LIRR, not Amtrak. In Chicago, they take the various Chicago lines or the IC (now called Metra). You cannot go 200MPH within the city. France is smaller than Texas. Japan is smaller than California. If they were as large as the U.S., with cities on the coasts, they'd be flying, too.
36 posted on 12/22/2017 9:59:41 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: MAGA2017

“High speed rail” is not about needed and necessary infrastructure. Maintenance and improvement of existing infrastructure already invested in previously should have a much bigger priority. Rail - moving stuff in fixed transportation corridors with dedicated land all along the way, and less efficient per pound than air transport is more than a hundred years older technology than air transport. And “high speed” rail is REALLY about convincing more people to live in concentrated population areas where “public services” are a larger “entitlement” necessity as such concentrations are unsupportable without them. THAT is the real motivations for them.


37 posted on 12/22/2017 10:00:43 AM PST by Wuli
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To: MeganC

Also many countries do not have better safety records than the US. Yes, they may have some good high speed lines. But the issue of safety has to do with spending money on Safety Engineers, hazard analysis, and risk management. We know about these things but too often project managers leave them under funded. I propose that this is what the Cascade Train system is going to be found guilty of. (Or they had these people on the team and flat out ignored their recommendations.)

Positive Train control is one of the items that Safety Engineers would have supported and tried to have implemented but here again we have the project manager who has the final say.


38 posted on 12/22/2017 10:03:44 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Trump has one good idea after the other.)
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To: MAGA2017

This winning thing is becoming exhausting. I need to hit the gym again. :)

BTW, I lived in Seattle for 46 years, moving to rural KY six years ago. The attitude in this article epitomizes one of the reasons I left that leftist cesspool. Time has only proven it was one of the smartest moves I ever made.


39 posted on 12/22/2017 10:11:10 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine; rktman; MeganC

"...it would help if train engineers knew their routes..."


Exactly. Concur 100%. No multi-million dollar computerized Positive Train Control system was needed to preserve safety in this situation.
The man or woman at the helm simply needed to pilot that train the same way any of us would drive our vehicles down a twisty mountain road...with CARE!


40 posted on 12/22/2017 10:30:59 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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