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Fight to save Arctic National Wildlife Refuge from oil drilling is not over
Seattle Times ^ | 12/21/2017 | Seattle Times Editors

Posted on 12/21/2017 2:52:33 PM PST by MAGA2017

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To: SandyInSeattle

Media montage parroting same story
https://youtu.be/PStpvviPgxk


41 posted on 12/21/2017 5:42:02 PM PST by edzo4 (Democrats playbook = promise everything, deliver nothing, blame someone else.)
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To: MAGA2017

Sally Jewell is a democrat. That means she is likely lying whenever she speaks.


42 posted on 12/21/2017 5:58:01 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: MAGA2017

Sally Jewell is a democrat. That means she is likely lying whenever she speaks.


43 posted on 12/21/2017 5:58:04 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Dilbert San Diego

You forgot “Unique”, which is usually uttered at in the same sentence. You’ll never hear them say something like “Oh - yeah, now I see what area you’re referring to - that area over there - hell, go right ahead - there’s nothing special at all about that land, plenty more where that came from!”

Unique. Pristine. Fragile. The original 1964 “Wilderness Act”, which is a bit different than legislation authorizing National Parks, speaks of areas “untrammled by man, where he is a visitor but does not remain.”

I’ve studied the “Environmental” crowd and it seems to be largely if not exclusively comprised of some very bad characters in the sense they engage in lawfare and legal chicanery to prevent any sort of resource extraction anywhere. Luddites with trust funds. Reasonable people long ago saw them for the nutcases they are. The Sierra Club was; at one time - very pro Nuclear Power. That’s a fact. Any organization or government entity that professes to be concerned about “global warming” or “carbon footprints” but looks the other way or actively encourages tens of millions of illegal aliens and foreign nationals invade the borders can be safely ignored as full of &$@t. (Same thing with anybody that claims to be involved in the orwell-esque “homeland security”. Wide open borders?? No way.)

SO DISGUSTED with all these bastards at every level who have been lying to the American people, so much for so long, they don’t know what’s what anymore. So in principle I don’t care a whit whether a wild area is preserved or not - Utah has some truly unique areas - but it’s not a museum either. Let’s let the sane people in Utah decide, not unelected wackadoodle bureacrats who don’t even live in the state, or crooked politicians engaging and in quid pro quo with foreign countries etc etc.

Buncha goddamn crooks. What else is new. End it. End it Now.


44 posted on 12/21/2017 6:46:59 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: MAGA2017

As soon as the first drill bit is in place in ANWR:
1) Every black in America will suddenly have chains on their feet and arms and will be forced to pick cotton in the fields.
2) Every woman will become pregnant and be forced to work only in a kitchen or at church.
3) The sidewalks will be stained crimson with the remains of LGBTQs thrown from rooftops of hotels.

And once the bit starts turning some real bad stuff will begin.


45 posted on 12/21/2017 7:00:47 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: MAGA2017

“Saving” some of these areas would be like keeping the dark side of the moon “pristine”...


46 posted on 12/22/2017 3:21:05 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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“Saving” some of these areas would be like keeping the dark side of the moon “pristine”...


Here is an “ecologist” arguing for no commercial development on the moon.

“I don’t want a McDonalds on the moon, though this sounds like hyperbole – and I don’t want mining, either. Over and over, the human history of expansionism (one we are eager to brush aside as long as we get our inexpensive clothing and coffee beans) has served up the same tired tale: a newfound land is wrested out of balance with the ecosystems and economies it had previously supported. Those in power lay claim to these places and make choices to their own clearest benefit – choices with unintended effects that we do not and often cannot know until the damage is done.”

https://entropymag.org/saving-the-moon-an-exo-ecology/


47 posted on 12/22/2017 4:52:28 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Uh-oh, that sensible argument by the typical “ecologist” may have changed my mind........just kidding....


48 posted on 12/22/2017 5:14:04 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone? I think Trump may give it back...)
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So some idiot doesn’t “want” mining - on the Moon??

If these folks had their way we’d still be living in Caves. Jeeze Louise. Have to go to school for a long time to get that stupid.


49 posted on 12/22/2017 10:10:14 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

If these folks had their way we’d still be living in Caves.


It is all part of the “noble savage” Rousseauian mythology.

Reality is much closer to the Hobbesian view of nature, where life is nasty, brutish, and short.

I do not subscribe to Hobbes Leviathan, but nature is not gentle.


50 posted on 12/22/2017 11:19:57 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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