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ATF Signals They Intend to Regulate Bump Fire Stocks Like Machine Guns
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12/21/17 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 12/21/2017 12:46:16 PM PST by Simon Green

Here we go . . . ATF to Publish Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking Re: Application of the Definition of Machinegun to “Bump Fire” Stocks and Other Similar Devices

Tomorrow, ATF will publish an Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemakingregarding the application of the definition of machinegun to “Bump Fire” stocks and other similar devices. As many have feared, it appears that the regulatory agency is soliciting feedback as to whether bump fire stocks, binary triggers, etc., fit within the definition of machinegun.

Comments are due thirty (30) days from the date of publication in the Federal Register. Assuming that nothing goes awry with the publication tomorrow, that would mean any comment you wish to submit in opposition to this advance notice would need to be submitted by 11:59 PM on Sunday, January 21, 2018. While one might expect an extra day to be provided to place the deadline on a Monday, agency rules govern. ATF confirmed via telephone that the deadline was Sunday.

It was only a matter of time. Despite clearly being unable to define a piece of plastic as a machine gun in the past, the ATF seems bound and determined to twist logic and language to make it so now. Orwell much?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bumpfire
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1 posted on 12/21/2017 12:46:16 PM PST by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

Easily predicted and I did so in October.


2 posted on 12/21/2017 12:47:34 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

A rubber band will serve the same purpose as a bump stock.

So, ATF will the mere possession of a rubber band and an AR-15 constitute a machine gun?

F’n retards.


3 posted on 12/21/2017 12:49:56 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: Simon Green
and Other Similar Devices

Crap!

Don't let a BATF&E thug find you with a rubber band!

4 posted on 12/21/2017 12:52:20 PM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Ouderkirk

“So, ATF will the mere possession of a rubber band and an AR-15 constitute a machine gun?”

Don’t give them any ideas.

L


5 posted on 12/21/2017 12:52:29 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Simon Green

Glad I got my binary trigger beforehand.


6 posted on 12/21/2017 12:53:29 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: Simon Green

Not surprised that they tried, but it’s going to be very hard to legally justify given the definition of a machine gun.

Kind of stupid because bump fire stocks are a waste of time and waste of money.

They are funny toys at the range but they are useless for practical shooting.

Had the Vegas shooter not been using a bumpier stock, more people would have died because bump fire stocks induce jams and his guns jammed because of the stocks.


7 posted on 12/21/2017 12:56:11 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Simon Green

Policy by hysteria.


8 posted on 12/21/2017 12:57:27 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Simon Green

Predictable and not surprising. Bet 99% of the country, probably close to that of gun owners, never heard of them until Las Vegas. Banning production ones is no biggie and seems like they are more novelty than anything. People can always get a big rubber band anyway. And just because we can, why bother? I’ve watched the Youtube videos and both the rubber band and the bump stock seems like just a quick way to waste ammo.


9 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:03 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: RandallFlagg

So what happens to the bump fires sold before the new rule?


10 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:08 PM PST by abbastanza
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To: RandallFlagg

So what happens to the bump fires sold before the new rule?


11 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:09 PM PST by abbastanza
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To: Simon Green

......in the mean time who was the shooter working for?


12 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:12 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Simon Green

They’ll probably find a way, legal or not. And guys like me will know that the rapid semi-auto is far more deadly.


13 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:43 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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To: abbastanza

No idea. I got the binary trigger, not the bump stock.
Considering how fast the bump stocks all sold out after Vegas, I doubt that they would round them all up.


14 posted on 12/21/2017 1:05:51 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: rdcbn
They are funny toys at the range but they are useless for practical shooting.

Its not funny at all if you consider how expensive ammo is.

15 posted on 12/21/2017 1:09:17 PM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: Simon Green

They should be protected under the ADA.


16 posted on 12/21/2017 1:09:46 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (All posts are /s, unless otherwise specified.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Might as well buy the real thing then.


17 posted on 12/21/2017 1:10:43 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: usurper

Pretty effective when you have hundreds of people in line with the bullets being sprayed everywhere.


18 posted on 12/21/2017 1:12:04 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Simon Green

IF you belt loop bump fire your rifle you will have turned it into an assault weapon and committed a felony.


19 posted on 12/21/2017 1:13:14 PM PST by ichabod1 (White Male)
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Why? Was there a mass shooting in which these stocks or binary triggers were used?

Which shooting? How many people were shot? By whom? I’ve seen no evidence of such a shooting? There was some Vegas thing that went down the memory hole 3 months ago, but that’s hardly evidence.


20 posted on 12/21/2017 1:14:37 PM PST by The Toll
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