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LEGAL ANALYSIS: Why Mueller’s Seizure of Transition Emails Likely Violated the Law
Law & Crime ^ | December 18th, 2017 | Robert Barnes

Posted on 12/18/2017 7:11:56 PM PST by Gideon7

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To: Gideon7

Fruit of the poisoned tree. Illegally obtained evidence invalidates all the evidence. Case over.


21 posted on 12/18/2017 7:49:38 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

If all 13 of the PTT folks in question OK-clicked-away some innocuous-looking message infobox about privacy that was presented far into the transition, not when they first began using the devices, that would explain the smugness of Bob’s spokesman about ‘consent’.


22 posted on 12/18/2017 7:56:59 PM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: Gideon7

Also need to file charges with the Bar to have his law license revoked.


23 posted on 12/18/2017 7:58:27 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: Signalman

Except this is political as impeachment doesn’t follow law, but politics.


24 posted on 12/18/2017 8:08:49 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Gideon7

There’s more to this story, including exactly how the emails were obtained, and by who.


25 posted on 12/18/2017 8:17:28 PM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: Steely Tom

I think that everyone is focusing on the wrong reason for the grabbing of these emails. This was not done for criminal investigation and Meuler doesn’t care if the courts rule that anything that results of this is the fruit of the poisonous tree. This was done for impeachment info which the Congress, Dems), can use for articles of Impeachment. They are looking for anything that can be the basis for an impeachment charge. Rules of evidence do not matter.


26 posted on 12/18/2017 8:27:13 PM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: dynoman

Folks I respect share your opinion dynoman!


27 posted on 12/18/2017 8:45:14 PM PST by karnage
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To: Gideon7

Laws?? Rules?? Regulations?? Come oonnnnnnn! These are democRATS. Laws and morals are for the lower people.


28 posted on 12/18/2017 8:45:25 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try.)
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To: BenLurkin
Shrillary lost. It was not expected.

obongo, the Arkansas Grifters and the Deep State are throwing caution to the wind.

If the GOP can find it's gonads a lot of traitors will go down and America wins

29 posted on 12/18/2017 8:54:49 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: Gideon7

There numerous things wrong with what Mueller is doing and how he even ended up there, in the first place. But, what is truly mind boggling, unnerving and should absolutely scare the sh*t out of everyone, is that he, his lawyers, investigators and FBI officials are so blinded and corrupt that it seems like there’s nothing they won’t do to try and get the President. Even if it means committing crimes.

Of course, Congress doesn’t have the balls to do anything about it, as most of them want the President gone, too.


30 posted on 12/18/2017 8:56:45 PM PST by qaz123
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To: SteveH
are the alleged violations actionable?

Anyone who had a reasonable expectation of privacy has a cause of action, e.g. any member of Trump's transition team. Any conspiracy to violate the constitutional or civil rights of the individuals is a violation of the Civil Rights act and action can be brought against the individuals who did this.

which if any court has jurisdiction?

A federal court since Mueller is acting under color of federal law.

who if anyone has standing?

Anyone who has been damaged by Mueller's actions.

what is/are the remedy/remedies?

money

does the separation of powers apply in any manner?

No because the Trump transition is by law a private nonprofit entity, not a constitutional governmental organization.

31 posted on 12/18/2017 9:41:11 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: usnavy_cop_retired
Rules of evidence do not matter.

That is an interesting question, when in an impeachment against the President, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is the presiding judge and federal procedure and federal rules of evidence are approved by acts of Congress. The Federal Rules of Evidence are certainly binding on the presiding judge.

32 posted on 12/18/2017 9:46:49 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Gideon7
The mail exchange records (MX) for ptt.gov point to Google. I do not know if GSA has outsourced all of it's internal email to Google, or just for the transition team.

For those that do not know what a MX record is, it "specifies a mail server responsible for accepting email messages on behalf of a recipient's domain." I does not mean it's the actual mail server that holds the or the user connects to.

33 posted on 12/18/2017 10:21:08 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: AndyJackson

You are correct as it pertains to the trial in the Senate, but the Dems don’t care about that. They want him impeached by the House which is not limited by future rulings by the Chief Justice during the trial. They just need to have enough “dirt” so that they can get the Rinos to agree to impeach. They likely want to do this just prior to the November elections in hopes to get enough Conservatives to vote for the Dems or stay home, (Judge Moore is a prime example).


34 posted on 12/19/2017 1:18:47 AM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: bigbob; Hostage; AndyJackson; Golden Eagle; Principled; MayflowerMadam; Paladin2; rdcbn; ...

******There’s more to this story, including exactly how the emails were obtained, and by who.****


Hostage, here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3614877/posts?page=36#36

Writes: “First we F Flynn, then we F Trump”

The above quote attributed to McCabe by a witness in a closed meeting makes sense now. McCabe was setting a trap for Trump’s people. The evidence regarding handoff of data from the GSA to FBI likely shows the transfer of custody of the GSA data to McCabe. This would explain why McCabe has an Ohr problem. It would explain why McCabe is toast.

Reports that McCabe entraps people, innocent people, are not new. More than a year ago George Webb started his epic investigation based on McCabe entrapment from years before when McCabe was with JTTF and was accumulating scalps via entrapment in order to seek promotion. McCabe is a dirty cop. In gutter street language, McCabe is a g*ddamn piece of sh*t.


Last night Mayflower Madam said she read WaPo reported that Mueller would be staying on the case ANOTHER YEAR.
This comports with Holder’s dare and threat of riots over firing him, and proves Holder and Mueller are close.

Haven’t seen any corroboration of the year extension YET, but that don’t mean it ain’t coming, and it explains CINC’s exasperated ‘sad, my people are very, very angry’ statement.

So, Mueller can continue jackhammering CINC, albeit with half the DOJ and FBI having been fired or convicted while he’s doing it.


35 posted on 12/19/2017 4:22:13 AM PST by txhurl (Banana Republicans, as far as the eye can see)
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To: txhurl

I saw that too and I think it’s bogus. Likely planted to encourage the crowd that wants Mueller fired.

Half his team...and maybe Mueller himself... will be on trial in that time frame.


36 posted on 12/19/2017 4:51:39 AM PST by Principled (OMG I'm so tired of all this winning...)
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To: txhurl

This morning I heard Napolitano (I think) say they’re prepared to go THROUGH 2018! I think it was on Varney.


37 posted on 12/19/2017 7:36:53 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Gideon7; Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

ping


38 posted on 12/19/2017 8:23:35 AM PST by bitt (The first to squeal gets the best deal.)
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To: bitt

It was weird last night watching the msm defend mueller and taking of these emails....meanwhile killary emails are down the rabbit hole.


39 posted on 12/19/2017 8:30:55 AM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: Gideon7
Bottom line:

If Mueller has behaved illegally or unethically, it's Rosenstien’s duty to relieve him and appoint someone else.

40 posted on 12/19/2017 9:06:34 AM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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