Sen. Ron Johnson: Trump accusations have already been vetted

Washington Times ^ | 12/14/17 | Sally Persons

[x1stcav]

Sen. Ron Johnson said Thursday that he does not support investigating accusations against President Trump for sexual assault because the voters have already cast their ballots. “Trump’s problems were vetted during the campaign,” Mr. Johnson, Wisconsin Republican, said on CNN. “The American people elected President Trump.” The senator said that if a new accusation were made during Mr. Trump’s presidency, then Congress should investigate that claim, but the senator said the voters have made their judgment with these allegations out in the public. Four women have come forward in recent days to retell their stories of sexual misconduct regarding Mr. Trump. These women all came forward during the presidential campaign as well, but said they needed to tell their stories again in wake of the new national conversation about sexual harassment. Democratic lawmakers have already called for a formal investigation into the claims.

[euram]

I particularly enjoyed hearing the beauty pageant contestant who was upset that Trump “looked me up and down.” Wow, I’ll bet she would have burst out in tears if he had just walked past her without looking. I also enjoyed hearing the one who said that Trump asked for her phone number, she gave it to him, but he never called.

[Kickass Conservative]

As I sit here naked under my clothes, I wonder if the Republic can survive.

[jjsheridan5]

Yes the accusations were vetted by the voters and they found it wanting. Donald Trump is now President. Deal with it ... Case closed.

Unfortunately, it is not up to you to decide whether the case is closed or not. The people making that decision, almost to a man, despise Trump, despise Trump supporters, and despise people who voted for Trump. They are the ones who decide whether the case is closed.

And, they have the full, ardent, support of every single pillar of propaganda: the media, big tech, academia, and culture. So no matter what they decide to do, their actions will never be portrayed in anything but the most positive light.

No, the case is not closed. Ultimately, the constitution gives sole discretion over the meaning of "high crimes and misdemeanors" to a bunch of people who despise Trump, have absolutely no apparent ethics, and can count on 100% support from everyone who matters.

I wish you were right. But you aren't. They may still fear the voter's wrath, to some degree, but that fear is dissipating rapidly. And the only thing staying their hand is that now-shrinking fear of the voters.

[jjsheridan5]

"Trump’s problems were vetted during the campaign" ... The senator said that if a new accusation were made during Mr. Trump’s presidency, then Congress should investigate that claim ...

A direct translation: we know that new allegations are in the pipeline. We are going to pretend to be shocked, disappointed, and reluctant, but we are ultimately turn this into an investigation, where removal from office is the ultimate goal (and, probably, inevitable). But, as we have said, we really, really respect the voter's choices (we will try our best to suppress laughter when making that claim).

[hotsteppa]

The citizens of the US voted in Nov last year and DJT won and is now the President. Case closed. Full stop.
It’s always up to the voters in situations like these, just like what happened to Moore in Alabama. Unfortunately for him, the voters choose to believe and we got that result.

Anyone in Congress who would like to try and re-litigate this, do that at their own risk and no amount of hand-wringing from, the nervous nellies on our side changes that. If only some on our side had the confidence of the President, we wouldn’t have to suffer some of these shiny objects thrown out.

[familyop]

The accusations didn't amount to anything more than morbid comedy, but a country of media full of clucking will make much of them.

Trump accusers band together, seek congressional probe of 'sexual misconduct'
Fox News ^ | December 11, 2017 | Brooke Singman
Posted on 12/11/2017 3:23:40 PM PST by familyop

Rachel Crooks said..."If they were willing to investigate Senator Franken, I think it's only fair that they do the same for Trump."...Samantha Holvey, a former Miss USA pageant contestant, alleged...“He lined us up,...Holvey said on NBC. “He was just looking me over like I was a piece of meat, I was not a human being, I didn’t have a brain, I didn’t have a personality. I was just simply there for his pleasure. It left me feeling very gross, very dirty. This is not what I signed up for.”

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

[jjsheridan5]

Anyone in Congress who would like to try and re-litigate this, do that at their own risk and no amount of hand-wringing from, the nervous nellies on our side changes that. If only some on our side had the confidence of the President ...

What the "nervous nellies" do or don't do is irrelevant. But the problem is that Trump's supporters (and I am most definitely one) are, by and large, sticking their heads in the sand, and calling it "confidence". In a matter of months, we are going to be completely immersed in a non-stop "year-of-the-shark" frenzy over sexual harassment in general, and, specifically, we are going to have a parade of Trump accusers (a mix of jilted flings, rabid anti-Trumpers, and attention whores). And Trump will be facing a full-blown "defection" by Republicans in DC (defection in quotes, because they were never in his camp to begin with).

And, because we choose to call willful ignorance, "confidence", our side is completely, and utterly, unprepared, because we are simply ignoring the gathering storm clouds. This is not "confidence". It is insanity. I don't know what we should be doing. What I do know is that we should be doing something more than just saying "the voters have spoken, so this is a non-issue."

[familyop]

"And, because we choose to call willful ignorance, 'confidence', our side is completely, and utterly, unprepared, because we are simply ignoring the gathering storm clouds. This is not 'confidence'. It is insanity. I don't know what we should be doing. What I do know is that we should be doing something more than just saying 'the voters have spoken, so this is a non-issue.'"

If too much chaos and violence develops, here's a suggestion to add to the efforts to return our nation to order and peace.

How Dramatically Did Women's Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?

JOHN R. LOTT Jr.
American Enterprise Institute (AEI) (download links for whole document at bottom of page)

September 1998

University of Chicago Law School, John M. Olin Law & Economics Working Paper No. 60
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999

Abstract:

This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.

[familyop]

For those who can watch a Youtube video, this will better define the problem.

Wang Rong Rollin - Chick Chick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0

[Slyfox]

Roy Moore was vetted how many times before he ran for senate?

Soros money got its shoes on and "re-vetted" him before the truth could find its way to Alabama.

[hotsteppa]

Trump voters are confident that the Donald can handle anything they throw at him as he has demonstrated in the election campaign. So let them dig up whatever lies they wanna throw at him, won’t work. I say bring it on.

[Theodore R.]

Yes, people in AL disgust me: they lack the fierce independence which they have long claimed.

[Slyfox]

It wasn't the good people of Alabama, it was the Soros money and others who overwhelmed and inundated AL.

Obama did the same thing in his 2008 primary season. Here in TX the dems turned the primary night precinct vote into a huge circus. Places that would get maybe a dozen people were busting with over 200 Obama supporters. It was so chaotic that it was hard to find out if all the people were actually voters from those precincts. Even longtime dems were shocked. This AL happening smacks the same.

[familyop]

Here’s some news.

Top attorney sought paydays for Trump accusers from media outlets, Clinton donors: report
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/15/attorney-lisa-bloom-sought-to-line-up-paydays-for-women-accusing-trump-sexual-misconduct-report.html

[JohnyBoy]

>I don’t know what we should be doing. What I do know is that we should be doing something more than just saying “the voters have spoken, so this is a non-issue.”

Losing your head now isn’t going to help anyone. All you’re doing is harming morale.

Trump’s already taking care of the issue by investigating the people paying the women to make accusations.

[JohnyBoy]

>Yes, people in AL disgust me: they lack the fierce independence which they have long claimed.

I have zero respect for the south after they rolled over when the left started striping their monuments. I care nothing for the Confederacy, but a people who let others strip them of their history are little more than slaves.

[jjsheridan5]

Trump voters are confident that the Donald can handle anything they throw at him as he has demonstrated in the election campaign.

He won a narrow victory (with fewer total votes), against a candidate that couldn't show her face in public because, every time she did, she lost even more support. Let's not make Trump out to be something he is not. He managed to energize a segment of voters who had been previously apathetic, but he was hardly some kind of political genius (I say this as a supporter -- I think our country needs him, badly, but he is also a flawed person who rubs a lot of people the wrong way -- including many who voted for him). You want to leave him alone, to face an inevitable impeachment process, because ... you see him as a political superman? That makes no sense whatsoever. I hate to be pessimistic but, realistically, if a serious impeachment process occurs he has little chance of political survival. That is just reality. And no amount of twittering can change that.

The Republican candidate just lost a senate seat in Alabama(!), centering around 40 year old, suspect, charges of dating women who were much younger than him and, one very suspect charge that he dated someone who was just underage. Alabama! A Republican candidate should be able to be discovered with a live boy, a dead girl, and a farm animal, and still win a race in Alabama by double digits. Face it: the well orchestrated campaign to make sexual harassment the great scourge of our generation is working, at least politically. And that well orchestrated campaign's target is not an obscure senate seat, but, rather, the person you believe to be some kind of political savant.

As I said, I have no idea what the grassroots can do about it. Maybe the opposition forces have amassed too much power. Such was the danger in ceding academia, tech, the media, culture, education, and just about everything else, to those who wish to destroy middle America. But the defiance that I keep hearing just rings hollow. Their plans are now obvious, they are being transparent, and they no longer are even pretending. It does make one wonder why they are behaving with such apparent confidence, and such fearlessness towards the voters.

[jjsheridan5]

Trump’s already taking care of the issue by investigating the people paying the women to make accusations.

Yeah, that will do it. Problem solved.

Losing your head now isn’t going to help anyone. All you’re doing is harming morale.

Much more than "morale" will be harmed if they successfully remove Trump. And I fail to see how artificially proclaiming confidence, when reason dictates otherwise, is helping anything.

I have no idea what we can do. But I do know that any successful defense of everything that is under assault has to begin with, at least, a recognition that it is under assault, and a realistic appraisal of the severity of the threat. You obviously think otherwise.

[JohnyBoy]

>Much more than “morale” will be harmed if they successfully remove Trump. And I fail to see how artificially proclaiming confidence, when reason dictates otherwise, is helping anything.

I think there’s a 50/50 Trump will be removed one way or the other. The permanent government isn’t going to allow the system to be reformed without a great struggle. But you don’t see me whining about it. If it happens, then we’ll get our weapons and deal with it. All you’re achieving by being defeatist in hurting our side. Stop it.

>I have no idea what we can do. But I do know that any successful defense of everything that is under assault has to begin with, at least, a recognition that it is under assault, and a realistic appraisal of the severity of the threat. You obviously think otherwise.

Here’s what you can do: Take your cues from Trump. He’s our general and he’s done a great job. We didn’t support Strange in AL and we lost the state for it, just like Trump said might happen. Here again, take your cues from Trump: These women are being paid to make allegations.

[4Runner]

For a newbie, you run your mouth a lot.