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1 posted on 12/11/2017 4:43:18 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Hard to justify?? Hard?? Upstate is hemorrhaging taxpayers, jobs, House seats. It’s a freaking ghost town.


2 posted on 12/11/2017 4:48:50 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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Strikes me odd that this is one of the few legitimate rationals for government and no one in that field wants to do projects, and when they do it’s for BS like scenic roads and parks. In Boston it was simple - fix the traffic or kill off a city.


4 posted on 12/11/2017 4:58:38 AM PST by major-pelham
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Chattanooga needs a bypass. Baton Rouge needs a bypass. Atlanta and Charlotte need... something.


7 posted on 12/11/2017 5:09:21 AM PST by SeeSharp
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here is a pop quiz:

In what year did Syracuse start losing population?

The answer can be found here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syracuse,_New_York

Catch the falling knife!


8 posted on 12/11/2017 5:09:23 AM PST by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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Is Syracuse big enough to need or justify a tunnel?

A by pass would segregate through traffic from local traffic


9 posted on 12/11/2017 5:10:53 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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“Hey, da union tinks dis project oughta go forward - ya got dat, Mr. Cuomo?” :)


11 posted on 12/11/2017 5:11:27 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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A detailed look at 4 different ways to build a $4 billion I-81 tunnel in Syracuse (12/5)
13 posted on 12/11/2017 6:17:44 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Women prefer men with money and muscles. DUH!)
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I am trying to locate on maps exactly where in Syracuse is this 1.4 mile elevated section of I-81. Maps I find don’t have it marked. Anyone know its location?


14 posted on 12/11/2017 6:56:28 AM PST by Wuli
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One rush hour in Pittsburgh should disabuse anyone of the notion of building tunnels.

Some commutes require you to go through TWO tunnels.
They are always a bottleneck. For assorted psychological
reasons people slow WAY DOWN when entering a tunnel.


15 posted on 12/11/2017 7:10:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; mewzilla

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Hard to justify?? Hard?? Upstate is hemorrhaging taxpayers, jobs, House seats. It’s a freaking ghost town
>

Hard to justify = govt can’t shoe-horn it into the process to hide the theft, graft and kick-backs that normally occur in *anything* govt\unions\transportation.

‘Unintended’ consequences and cost to taxpayers?? What’s that matter in the grand-scheme of things?


20 posted on 12/11/2017 9:50:55 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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My tax dollars at work. Two million dollars to study an idiotic idea that makes no sense whatsoever on any level other than make-work for the unions. The point of this tunnel would be....what? For better traffic flow thru Syracuse? You can already go around it on I-481. I pass thru here quite often. The few extra minutes on 481 vs. 81 are insignificant and negligible, altho I can’t speak for ‘rush-hour’ traffic on either. And $4.5-billion & 10-years to complete really means $6-billion and 15 years. The I-81 / Route 17 interchange in Binghamton has been under construction over 6 years now without an end in sight. That’s a freekin’ nightmare on weekends when the snowflakes go back to school.


23 posted on 12/11/2017 10:14:12 AM PST by wny
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"and require $10 million a year to operate"

to be paid for by, who...

26 posted on 12/11/2017 10:24:27 AM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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Oh, just great . . .

Our view: Tunnel may be the best option for I-81 through Syracuse (12/6)

29 posted on 12/11/2017 10:58:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Women prefer men with money and muscles. DUH!)
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