[elcid1970]

“...this is like saying that Budd Dwyer set the precedent for all corrupt politicians.”

Don’t we wish. Honorable .357 seppuku in front of the cameras. Quite a list of pollies I’d like to see go out that way.

Tick Turban is an arrogant sanctimonious pr*ck. Eighteen years ago on vacation we met a family from Iowa and I had just done reserve training at Camp Dodge. Asked why did Turban keep getting reelected. They replied they didn’t like him either but that the political culture of Des Moines rules the rest of the state.

There are a lot of states dominated by liberal city-states: MI, PA, GA, PA, IL, NY, OR, WA, to name a few.

[farming pharmer]

There are a lot of states dominated by liberal city-states: MI...

It's true. Once you get beyond the tri-county area (Macomb, Wayne & Oakland counties) Detroit dominates, the rest of Michigan votes Republican (with a few small exceptions).

That Trump won Michigan by about 10,000 votes:
1) The Washtenaw-Wayne county vote fraud axis wasn't able to produce enough fake ballots fast enough and
2) Overwhelming hate of Hillary & Obama forced a lot of non-engaged voters to the polls. Hopefully this happens again for 2020.