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To: mdittmar
allows states to require public employees to pay fees to unions that represent them

Although I generally loathe and despise unions, the feds have no constitutional authority to regulate states here. The feds need to butt out. This is an issue of constitutionally sovereign states not a federal issue.

16 posted on 12/06/2017 7:28:56 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Guess it doesn’t matter in the long run,unions are dinosaurs.


23 posted on 12/06/2017 7:41:39 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Jim 0216

The State doesn’t have the right to take away constitutional rights from workers or employers any more so than any other constitutional rights.


48 posted on 12/06/2017 9:02:56 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Jim 0216
Although I generally loathe and despise unions, the feds have no constitutional authority to regulate states here. The feds need to butt out. This is an issue of constitutionally sovereign states not a federal issue.

The States have to obey the First Amendment just as much as the federal government must obey it.

55 posted on 12/06/2017 10:29:00 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Jim 0216
Nice to have a constitutional lawyer aboard, but go back to law school.

State government forcing it's people to pay some favored 3rd party as a condition of employment is unconstitutional on its face.

57 posted on 12/07/2017 2:56:46 AM PST by AAABEST (Got Traditional Catholicism? - Angelqueen.org)
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To: Jim 0216

The First Amendment is not a sovereign state issue.


62 posted on 12/07/2017 3:15:12 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim 0216

The best argument here is that the federal government had to enact the 13th Amendment to outlaw slavery in the individual states.

“Abolishes slavery, and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.”

This applies to forced union dues, forced artistry against a person’s religious beliefs, the forced payment of employee insurance to fund birth control and abortion against a person’s religious beliefs, and the forced purchase of individual health insurance.

So, backed by the spirit of Abraham Lincoln, President Trump is once again fighting against the involuntary servitude still sponsored by the Democrats.


79 posted on 12/07/2017 6:39:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: Jim 0216

Extortion is a federal issue too.


86 posted on 12/07/2017 7:47:06 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo...)
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To: Jim 0216

Regulation of Interstate Commerce trumps the 10th amendment so it is clearly a federal issue.


123 posted on 12/07/2017 6:29:09 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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