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To: kabar
"who leaked the intercepts to the press?" and "questions about whether anyone on Mueller's team had leaked the existence of the search warrant to the Post"

These two examples hardly qualify as corroboration for the True Pundit story, in my opinion, but I appreciate you finding what you did. Apparently True Pundit remains alone in their specific assertion that a leak is why Strzok was fired from Mueller's team, unless you or others have more to add. And, this is an important distinction, as it appears others on Mueller's team may be guilty of simply sending biased messages around to associates.

To intimidate other future subjects of interest. The leak was meant to demonstrate that the Mueller team was playing hardball and would go to any length to get at the "truth."

A fair point, but again in my opinion it blew up in their face, in the court of public opinion, where any trial of Trump will primarily be judged. They should have known how that would be viewed, to anyone besides the most liberal partisan. You don't normally go kicking the doors in to people's homes before dawn unless you think theiy're armed and dangerous.

As far as being politically damaging to Mueller, there was very little outcry from the MSM about the treatment of Manafort. In fact, there were indications that Mueller was doing his job. There was very little sympathy for Manafort who was characterized as a slimeball who advocated for the Russians in Ukraine and was involved in possible money laundering. Bottom line: Manafort got what he deserved.

What the media hopes the public will believe based on their slanted reporting, and what the public ultimately believes are not usually the same, see Roy Moore as Exhibit A. So we're still not finding much agreement, but thanks again for your lengthy response.

90 posted on 12/06/2017 7:06:55 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Donald Trump: "There's a lot of people disappointed in the Justice department, including me.")
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To: Golden Eagle
These two examples hardly qualify as corroboration for the True Pundit story, in my opinion, but I appreciate you finding what you did.

I don't consider True Pundit to be the primary source. This rumor has been out there for some time. There are plenty of other examples where this rumor has been posited, both at the time of the transfer to HR and currently.

Apparently True Pundit remains alone in their specific assertion that a leak is why Strzok was fired from Mueller's team, unless you or others have more to add. And, this is an important distinction, as it appears others on Mueller's team may be guilty of simply sending biased messages around to associates.

I am not going to supply you with more examples that are readily available in you use Google. As someone who spent 36 years working for the federal government, I knew at the time that something was up with Strzog. HR is used as a holding tank for people who are unassignable due to personnel issues. Was it a coincidence that this occurred just a few weeks after the Manafort leak? Doubtful.

Mueller's team is stacked with partisans. If sending biased messages to colleagues was the criterion for dismissal from the team, there would probably be no one left. There had to be another reason why Strzog was sent to Siberia. The OIG inspection apparently provided some of this information on Strzog's text messages. But there is a reason why DOJ and the FBI stonewalled Congress on information about Strzog and prevented his testimony before the House intel committee. IMO there is a major investigation into Strzog's actions during the email and Russia investigations. You don't put Strzog in HR for such a long time without having significant evidence of possible wrongdoing.

A fair point, but again in my opinion it blew up in their face, in the court of public opinion, where any trial of Trump will primarily be judged. They should have known how that would be viewed, to anyone besides the most liberal partisan. You don't normally go kicking the doors in to people's homes before dawn unless you think theiy're armed and dangerous.

We will just agree to disagree. There was no public outcry about the treatment of Manafort or his indictment. In fact, it was celebrated by the MSM as a harbinger of things to come. Mad dog Weissmann is on the case.

What the media hopes the public will believe based on their slanted reporting, and what the public ultimately believes are not usually the same, see Roy Moore as Exhibit A. So we're still not finding much agreement, but thanks again for your lengthy response.

So far, the public remains on the side of the MSM. Trump's approval ratings remain consistently low. The reporting on Strzog has been minimal except for Fox. The networks are burying the story and only report what they must to appear that there is any scintilla of journalism left.

Roy Moore may emerge victorious in AL, but he will be attacked once he reaches the Senate. The Dems will try to use the allegations of pedophilia as an albatross around the Reps' necks citing Romney, Flake, McCain, etc. You are living in a bubble if you think that the public is outraged about the treatment of Manafort, Flynn, Moore etc. When you have Reps attacking them, how do you convince the public that the Dems are wrong?

A lot can happen between now and next November, but right now, the Dems have a real shot at taking the House. The Mueller investigation will have an influence. So will tax reform if the Reps can pull it off. Trump needs some wins.

92 posted on 12/06/2017 7:39:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: Golden Eagle

Reports I read said agents “pick-locked” their way in, which imo in much worse that kicking in doors and entering loudly. Pretty sure my husband would have grabbed the Remington shotgun by our bed, confronted the “intruders” and be dead now.


93 posted on 12/06/2017 7:47:04 AM PST by GAgal
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