Posted on 12/03/2017 6:57:14 AM PST by Kaslin
The debriefing was as vicious as you'd expect it to be, the Navy commander methodic in his dissection of one of the greatest failures in military history. The massive loss of life and strategic capabilities were inevitable once the officers of history's greatest military force allowed large sections of the region to "develop into a safe haven" for lawlessness and terrorism, "the perfect environment to allow a rebellion to grow."
"Once maritime dominance is established, resistance from shore rarely stops," says Cmdr. BJ Armstrong. "Without small ships to run intercept the blockade was simply a dismal failure."
Armstrong, an academy instructor with a PhD in War Studies from King's College, is not talking about the Middle East or Northern Africa of today or the sinking of the Bismarck in 1941. He's focused on the loss of the Death Star and the Battle of Hoth, two "cautionary tales" that have much to teach the future officers of the American military.
The first exhibit to your right as you enter the U.S. Naval Academy Museum documents all of its alumni who have gone to space, while the second floor hosts 50 gorgeous 18th and 19th century dockyard model ships donated by industrial titan and New York National Guardsman Henry Huddleston Rogers. The model of a British 3rd rate, 70-gun ship sits in the shadow of a poster declaring "Gort, klaatu barada nikto" and something called the "xur ko-dan armada." The conference room across from the model is now crammed with the best-dressed nerds the United States military has to offer. They are here for NavyCon, which is like ComicCon, but for the "rough men [who] stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
There are about 40 people at each of the two afternoon sessions on this brisk Saturday. Despite its billing, the conference looks nothing like your average comic book fan gathering. There are no costumes. There are six active duty military men in full dress uniform in attendance from the Navy, Marine Corps, and Army. Only 13 attendees wear glasses, while the facial hair—one mustache, six beards, none of them of the chinstrap variety—is expertly trimmed. About a dozen midshipmen have elected to attend the event rather than travel to South Bend to watch Navy lose a heartbreaker to Notre Dame.
They share many laughs at the pithy observations of today's speakers, particularly Defense News writer David Larter, retired Navy enlisted. Larter's presentation focuses on the "Mistakes of the Empire" in Star Wars. In between his quips about the rebel alliance's tactical resemblance to ISIS and Darth Vader's failures as a leader—"force choke in private, praise in public"—are actual lessons about institution building and educating military commanders. Vader choking "Admiral Bozzell"—here someone interjects that it's "Admiral Ozzel"—represents the "zero defect mentality" of leadership that cripples military leadership. He points to military command's trigger finger in laying off errant captains who have caused public relations headaches.
"Is the Navy force choking people for simple mistakes and is that making leaders too cautious?" he says. "A healthy organization struggles with these issues and does so publicly."
The Empire comes in for further scorching by Cmdr. Armstrong, who lays waste to the idea that it had any chance against Jedi rebels. One need only study naval architecture to grasp the point: The Empire's "improper fleet architecture" left it unable to provide "constabulary duties" in peacetime, which allowed rebellion to fester. More than that such a system stifles leadership as ship captains are taken from a pool of those "at the ends of their careers" rather than young leaders.
Capt. Mark Vandroff, a long-time ship builder and commander of the Carderock Division of the Naval Surface Warfare Center, joins the dogpile heaping scorn on Palpatine. Vandroff disputes Armstrong's simplistic reliance on constabulary forces, saying that building constabulary forces would "bankrupt" the Empire. But he also acknowledges the Empire's miscalculation of the political realities of the galaxy and understanding of supply chain that ultimately undid the Death Star—even after an otherwise flawless acquisition and building operation.
"If your strategy doesn't make sense it doesn't matter what you buy," he says.
Vandroff's presentation scores eruptions of laughter, particularly his application of acronyms. I laughed along with everyone else as he explained, "the Death Star was clearly an ACATID program" that had "adequate IOT&E" to meet the Empire's "JUON" or "Joint Urgent Operational Need," but I was also painfully aware that I was not in on the joke. The knowing laughter served to remind the civilian that the comic book talk was mere cover for substantive issues.
NavyCon started off as a joke on Twitter by naval officers and military historians over the summer. Academy instructor and museum director Claude Berube saw the jokey hot takes and arguments over Star Wars, Firefly, Battlestar Galactica, and other programs, and realized there were important lessons to pass on to the next generation of officers. He cobbled together a dozen presenters, many with doctorates, active duty commissions, Marine veteran and Congressman Mike Gallagher (R., Wisc.), and popular sci-fi author David Weber to deliver shockingly prescient lessons about military strategy and warfare.
"We are constantly trying to reason out what our future fleet would look like. We know that many fiction authors have picked up a lot of ideas by looking to the past," Berube says. "When you look at the breadth of knowledge in that room, these are some of the best naval thinkers around today."
How eager were our nation's leading defense figures to participate in NavyCon? Assistant Secretary of Defense for Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction Dirk Maurer took time off from countering weapons of mass destruction to listen to an Army lieutenant discuss non-state actors in Firefly and a Canadian PhD candidate discuss port policy as it relates to Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
The conference ends with a generous question and answer session with David Weber, who claims to have set South Carolina's record for attempts to enlist in the Navy owing to his flat feet, epilepsy, and deafness in one ear. The man is a rock star in this room, but his reverence for the audience bleeds through into the talk as he quotes Patton, Clausewitz, and Grossman. The future belongs to the U.S. Navy, he says.
"The Air Force might be able to handle near earth, but if you're talking deep space, the only institution is the Navy," he says.
We retire to a conference room and sip scotch from a table given to Commodore Matthew Perry by the Japanese emperor. Berube says his institution is already planning for next year's event.
"The feedback we've gotten is that we need to do this again and we need to expand this," he say
Are these nerds able to read a NAVMAP?
“”The Air Force might be able to handle near earth, but if you’re talking deep space, the only institution is the Navy,” he says.”
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I wonder how much of that statement is due to Clementine? The US Navy is the only overtly military department to have mapped in detail (Hi-Res) a non-Earthly body - the Clementine moon mission in 1994; much of the product remains classified to this day.
Probably not much. The Navy has centuries of experience in operating vessels in hostile environments, and commanding men to work and live under discipline in close quarters and for long periods of time. Army?? no. Air Force?? no.
A nuclear sub is just a apace ship operating in a water environment.
In fact, there is actually a sci-fi series based directly on that idea.
And why did they map the moon? What conceivable purpose die that serve? And why are the Images still classified - only the Low-Res and a few on the Middle-Res images are available, all the Hi-Res images are not?
What did they see on those images which we are not allowed see?
And why did Clementine ‘disappear’ after being declared destroyed only to reappear, without comment, years later in a totally different non-lunar orbit?
It is also true that the Navy budget at the time did not allow for the expense and some other more earthy military objectives had to be scraped or dropped to fund the mission. Why? What was so important that they had to map the moon in detail at that time, despite other more overtly pressing concerns?
I’ll say it: Because there is a base on the dark side, and it isn’t human. Most of the original 11 have testified publically and privately that most of their activity in space and on Moon was monitored.
We have less evidence to substantiate the quantum physics many of the devices we use today are based on than we have for the existence of extra-terrestrial civilization. It’s a mountain of evidence.
Good questions all. But not really relevant as to why the Navy is the preferred service for long-term space missions. I suspect something along the lines of what post 6 is suggesting for “Clementine”. Why did they call it “Clementine”?? Military nerds are like all nerds....they have “odd” senses of humor, and there is more to the name than is apparent on the surface.
Then again, if the Navy is the ‘preferred’ service for long term missions, why does the USAF run the X-37 long term missions?
The Clementine badge - there are a couple of youtube videos exploring the various design parts of the patch and possible meanings and oblique references. (One of them deals with a blurred out section of one image - interesting).
I'd viscerally like to disagree but cannot, it is only logical to carry the Navy experience and traditions to the unlimited ocean of space. There will be modifications as required by new experiences BUT it would be very foolish to ignore institutional knowledge already gained.
Still, even with this admission above, GO ARMY, BEAT NAVY! 12/09/17 1500 hours, Lincoln Financial Field, Philadelphia, PA.
I suspect because the X-37 is unmanned. The relevant Navy experience doesn't apply.
I can think of only one organization on the planet that might best the USN with the above logic (which is precisely the same as my own reasoning). The British Navy at one time could give the USN lessons, but I suspect much of that experience base is long lost.
Or Arthur C. Clarke’s craft sailing along in the heavy dust layer that the moon turned out not to have. “A Fall of Moondust”
bfl
And why did Clementine ‘disappear’ after being declared destroyed only to reappear, without comment, years later in a totally different non-lunar orbit?
This doesn’t mention anything ‘years later.’ Could you provide a link?
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