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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, the Feds can’t charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach via the 14th Amendment’s incorporation clause, IMO.


5 posted on 12/01/2017 8:53:02 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Women prefer men with money and muscles. DUH!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about criminal or involuntary manslaughter, then? Not the same...


14 posted on 12/01/2017 9:34:38 AM PST by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dual sovereigns doctrine. Double jeopardy is not an issue.


21 posted on 12/01/2017 10:07:28 AM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Dual sovereigns doctrine. Double jeopardy is not an issue.


22 posted on 12/01/2017 10:07:28 AM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about income tax evasion?


23 posted on 12/01/2017 10:22:07 AM PST by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Unfortunately, the Feds can’t charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach via the 14th Amendment’s incorporation clause, IMO.

Yes but they can charge him with 8 USC 1326, Unlawful reentry after deportation. Its a slam dunk charge because they is no real defense.

There are automatic enhancements tagged on to the sentence based on past immigration violations and criminal history.

Given his past I would guess he would get 4 to 6 years to run consecutively along with his federal weapons charges.

25 posted on 12/01/2017 10:38:42 AM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unless Ms. Steinle was a member of a protected class such as politicians or postal workers out delivering mail, or unless the crime was on Federal property, there is no federal murder statute that would apply.

Re entering the US after deportation is a Federal crime as is being an illegal alien in possession of a firearm. So he could be charged with that.

Politics is a scam and we’re suckers for playing.


32 posted on 12/01/2017 11:54:17 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Hope and redemption are to be found in the Lord. Not in politics.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Feds can’t charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach”

Found this online, (assume that “Pennsylvania” could mean any state): “a defendant who has been acquitted of charges in the Pennsylvania courts could be charged with and tried in the federal system despite the fact that the defendant already won the case in Pennsylvania. This is because of the idea that the state and the federal government are ‘dual sovereigns.’ This means that under federal law, both the United States and state government may both prosecute you for a crime without violating the constitutional protection against double jeopardy if your act violated both state laws and federal statute.”


34 posted on 12/01/2017 11:58:19 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free".)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Kaslin; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

“Unfortunately, the Feds can’t charge him with murder, since double jeopardy would attach via the 14th Amendment’s incorporation clause, IMO.”


That is incorrect. While the State of California may not bring murder charges again because jeopardy vested, under the “separate sovereigns” doctrine the U.S. government could do so (as could, in theory, any state other than California, assuming that they had jurisdiction). The real issue is what federal laws the illegal alien violated. It seems to me as if possession of a handgun as an illegal alien is one, and there may be some others, but, with few exceptions, manslaughter and murder are state, not federal, crimes.


37 posted on 12/01/2017 1:10:44 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about a hate crime?


44 posted on 12/01/2017 3:05:43 PM PST by Datom (Still runnin' "Against the Wind.")
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