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To: Golden Eagle; kjam22

Yeah, I read that article and found it interesting.

My take on this whole thing is:

1) That the true agenda in DOJ, congress, intelligence bureaus, Mueller’s team, the deep state, etc., is a crazy mixture of every motivation from CYA, to political witch hunt, to honest law enforcement, to blackmail, to let the chips fall where they may. I don’t know which element will prevail or whether it will be a vague and unresolved mess.

2) That there is far, far more guilt on the Leftist, Democrat side of the political equation. That if any of these investigations lead anywhere they will lead to Democrat wrongdoings, even if they are mostly trying to avoid just that. So, I think either it all fizzles out or some big Democrats take the fall. Probably the fizzle is more likely. In any case, I’m not and have never been real concerned about Mueller bringing Trump down. Even if he hates Trump, I think he’s more likely to find dirt on the Democrat side, or none at all. Why? Because I think Trump is innocent.

3) I have zero interest in discussing whether a certain FReeper was right or wrong in statements made about this months ago. The people now saying “I told you so” tend to mischaracterize, misquote, exaggerate and/or oversimplify past exchanges in order to make it appear as if they were so right and he was so wrong.

I see a lot of straw man arguments and loaded questions and ad hominem attacks. For example, I don’t remember anyone saying there was a love fest between Trump and Mueller, that they were secretly BFFs. - only that his investigation was likely to lead to Democrats being indicted due to the amount of Democrat guilt. Yet, people keep making these straw man arguments and posing loaded questions like “Do you still believe Trump and Mueller are secretly BFFs?” Who ever said they were BFFs in the first place?

I still think the idea that Mueller’s investigation is unlikely to harm Trump and more likely to bring down a bunch of Democrats is sound for the reasons stated above.

I’ll leave it at that.


139 posted on 12/01/2017 10:00:01 AM PST by enumerated
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To: enumerated
I’m not and have never been real concerned about Mueller bringing Trump down.

Thanks for the nice long post and sorry to have to dissect it down like this it down like this. But if you dont fear Mueller, you should, becase a special prosecutor is about the only way to take a president down. And even if Trump is innocent, if the Democrats retake the house, whatever Mueller can dig up or falsify will be the perfect weapon for them to impeach. Heck with these backstabbing Republicans it may not even take a Democratically controlled house.

I don’t remember anyone saying there was a love fest between Trump and Mueller, that they were secretly BFFs. - only that his investigation was likely to lead to Democrats being indicted due to the amount of Democrat guilt.

Then you weren't looking very closely then, because without a scant of evidence they believe that Trump and Mueller came up with a scheme so grand that no one can possibly even find out it is actually going on, no matter how many are following this story. Now they're even claiming Mueller needs years of freedom from criticism, since he hasnt arrested any Dema yet, because it will take that long to gather evidence on Clinton (lol). But they believe Trump has so much faith in Mueller, he will continue to lie on Twitter, and to the camera, while his own people get indicted, because his trust in Mueller is so unshakable and strong.

Thankfully you dont appear to believe that, but obviously many do, and still will even after another Trump team member is charged by Mueller like has happened today.

141 posted on 12/01/2017 10:38:26 AM PST by Golden Eagle (Donald Trump: "There's a lot of people disappointed in the Justice department, including me.")
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