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North Korean Missile Lands In Waters Off Japan’s Coast: Japanese PM
CNBC ^ | 11/28/17 | Tucker Higgins

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:18:30 PM PST by Enlightened1

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To: IronJack

“If this didn’t come from a mobile launcher, the proper response would be to bomb the launch site into rubble.”

Best response would be wait till there is a northerly wind blowing and accidentally drop one on the Nork front lines.


21 posted on 11/28/2017 12:54:14 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (BANNON YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!)
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To: Sacajaweau

22 posted on 11/28/2017 12:54:24 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Enlightened1

I wish he’d screw up and one land ANYWHERE in China. Problem eliminated.


23 posted on 11/28/2017 1:08:26 PM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Dog

Must have been an altitude test and it pretty much much went straight up and down


24 posted on 11/28/2017 1:11:27 PM PST by shotgun
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To: IronJack

Or, bomb the ‘factory’...


25 posted on 11/28/2017 1:18:07 PM PST by GOPJ (https://www.reddit.com/r/StumpSheet/comments/6ec3z1/fake_hate_crimes_official/)
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To: Mariner
That figure was from the official USAF Minuteman III Fact sheet.

http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104466/lgm-30g-minuteman-iii/

BTW I was a Minuteman III Missile Systems Analyst (AFSC 316X0H) in the USAF for 9 years. We put many in the lagoon at Kwajalein from Vandenberg AFB and that range agrees with your statement.

26 posted on 11/28/2017 1:21:33 PM PST by pfflier
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To: USCG SimTech

Looks like North Korea has an ICBM. If they put a thermonuclear warhead on it, then North Korea could do an EMP (Electro Magnetic Propulsion) attack above the U.S. that would knock out the entire electrical grid system.

It would not matter if your electronics are plugged in or not. They would all be destroyed. It would take years to rebuild it.

Within a 7 days all the food in the grocery stores would go bad. Within 3 to 4 weeks there would be chaos in the streets. Certainly in the cities. They would be death traps. P

Hopefully, measurements are being accelerated to protect the grid. It is my understanding that this is taking place per President Trump order. President Obama never did it.


27 posted on 11/28/2017 1:22:21 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

28 posted on 11/28/2017 1:29:26 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Enlightened1

Japan should tell the Young Un to Ben Dover


29 posted on 11/28/2017 1:36:15 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: pfflier

“Not Likely. The apogee of a Minuteman III is about 700 miles.”
That is because we don’t aim them straight up.


30 posted on 11/28/2017 1:37:58 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Enlightened1

“could do an EMP (Electro Magnetic Propulsion) attack above the U.S. that would knock out the entire electrical grid system.”

The size of bomb needed to knock out the ENTIRE US electrical grid... yeah, no freaking way. This country is a lot bigger than you think.


31 posted on 11/28/2017 1:39:26 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Enlightened1

“It would not matter if your electronics are plugged in or not. They would all be destroyed.”


Utter nonsense. And I tell you that as an electronics engineer with 3 decades of experience, just saying...


32 posted on 11/28/2017 1:43:31 PM PST by miniTAX (n)
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To: Enlightened1

Either they were aiming to cause an incident or (more likely) their aim is bad.


33 posted on 11/28/2017 1:49:53 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Enlightened1
An initial analysis by David Wright, a missile expert at the Union of Concerned Scientists, shows that the missile has the farthest range of any projectile yet tested by North Korea — and specifically that it would be capable of reaching the entire continental United States.

Like the reclusive country's previous two ICBM tests, which were conducted in July, this test involved a missile traveling in a "lofted" arc that is more vertical than horizontal. The missile flew nearly 1,000 km (about 600 miles) horizontally, with an altitude of 4,500 km (nearly 2,800 miles), Yonhap says.

A high, steep trajectory thus reveals a missile that could travel on a shallow, long trajectory — potentially striking the U.S., a capability that North Korea has long sought to have. In this case, the newest missile shows a range of more than 13,000 km (more than 8,000 miles) according to Wright's analysis — significantly more than the previous ICBMs demonstrated. However, he notes, "We do not know how heavy a payload this missile carried, but given the increase in range it seems likely that it carried a very light mock warhead. If true, that means it would not be capable of carrying a nuclear warhead to this long distance, since such a warhead would be much heavier."

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/28/566994979/north-korea-apparently-fires-another-missile-after-2-1-2-month-break-between-tes

34 posted on 11/28/2017 2:00:12 PM PST by Elderberry
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A 1 megaton blast at 200,000 km altitude (sweet spot in Ionosphere for EMP effects) would generate ~~ 4.2 *10^15 joules at that point which might translate to ~~ 6.5 Megawatts/200,000 meters on the surface directly beneath the blast, distributed horizon to horizon (~~ 1,200 miles of Earth surface in every direction) so electronics on the surface directly beneath the blast would see an electrical surge from the Hall effect of a magnetic wave passing through conductive surfaces/wire of about 324 watts/square meter.

Obviously the longer length of your wire (circuitry) that is exposed to the EMP the greater your total wattage from the surge will be in your circuit.

Telephone wires could easily spark. Your headlights/taillights might glow bright for a moment, perhaps even pop. Parallel circuits will be less taxed than series circuits.

...but the surge directly below the blast will be orders of magnitude greater than the final EMP that reaches the blast’s 1,200 mile horizon radius (1,931 Km).

Distance matters.

6.5 Megawatts divided by 1,931,000 meters means that the EMP on the end horizon of the blast is only ~~ 3.37 watts per square meter. Pretty much every circuit made can handle that “surge”.

324 watts/sq meter directly under a high-altitude Space EMP blast, trailing down to 3.37 watts/sq meter 1,200 miles horizontally away from the EMP blast.


35 posted on 11/28/2017 2:23:30 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: TalonDJ

Low earth orbit begins at about 1,200 miles. Depending on the horizontal velocity anything that goes up to 2,800 miles would be up there for some time.


36 posted on 11/28/2017 2:27:29 PM PST by pfflier
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To: TalonDJ
Review of the reported data says the following:

"U.S., South Korean and Japanese officials said it flew for about 40 minutes and reached an altitude of 2,500 kilometers, about 1,500 miles".

37 posted on 11/28/2017 2:42:11 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Enlightened1
"... then North Korea could do an EMP (Electro Magnetic Propulsion)
attack above the U.S."

EMP = Electro-Magnetic Pulse.
Just a small detail.

38 posted on 11/28/2017 6:57:59 PM PST by StormEye
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To: StormEye

Right , sorry and thanks.


39 posted on 11/28/2017 7:55:10 PM PST by Enlightened1
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