Posted on 11/27/2017 7:57:30 AM PST by Kaslin
We hear about this surge in ObamaCare enrollments.
The San Francisco Chronicle is even asserting that "the public embrace of the Affordable Care Act amounts to a stark rejection of administration and Republican policy".
Maybe we can call it something like the revenge of the AHA.
The editorial spends a lot of time bashing Trump but it does not say anything about the economic state of the people signing up. In other words, are these AHA policyholders going to pay their own premiums or will they be subsidized in some fashion?
We don't know but the answer matters a lot.
A week ago, the New York Times wrote another article about ObamaCare. It gave us a glimpse about the dilemma of the middle class, or the people who have to pay their own way. This is how they described the state of the AHA:
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I can’t imagine using it. But I must be unique since we have zero health insurance since 1/1/2014, the day Obamacare became the law of the land.
It’s been a struggle to keep my taxable income low enough for the 8% rule to protect us from paying a penalty, but fortunately even the pretty much worthless bronze plan is really expensive.
A few years ago, my daughter signed up for a stinker of an Obamacare plan. It was heavily subsidized and offered virtually no coverage. The closest doctor was something like 50 miles away, $5000 deductible before any coverage kicked in. Don’t know too many 20 somethings that spend that much.
She signed up just because the subsidized cost was lower than the fine for not getting it.
The minute she got a better job, she canceled that waste of money. Then later, she had to fight for her tax refund because they wanted to keep it to pay for her subsidy. She won that one.
There are a lot of people using the exchanges and Obamacare simply because otherwise they could not afford any kind of insurance at all.
I have Obamacare and if I didn’t then I would be paying something like over $800 a month for insurance which I can’t afford. So there are plenty of people like me taking advantage of it so they can have some sort of coverage.
I have been lucky in my own market in that I have had good choices and able to get a good policy. Some markets have little choice and as a consequence they are paying a lot even with the subsidy. It’s a screwed system.
We are all being screwed by the gigantic fraud we all let ourselves get hit with in the Medical System. We could lower costs a great deal if enforced Sherman Anti-Trust against the Medical Monopolies but we don’t demand it, so here is what we are stuck with.
The undocumented.
There is no consequence of repealing Obamacare that is worse than Obamacare itself.
Freebie seekers?
People who were on the state Medicaid rolls and people who get the low income subsidy of premiums.
One of the problems is that people don’t want to work as they are afraid of mak8ng too much money and losing their free insurance, food stamps, Tax Credits....
A friend of mine has about 70 employees and he can’t get people to work overtime when prior to O-care people were begging for OT.
Consider the possibility (imo) that the corrupt, uniparty Congress may be enrolling citizens, as well as illegal aliens, in Obamacare without their knowledge.
I refuse. No healthcare is my protest. Just don’t tell anyone.
I work in a plant roughly three times that size and we have the same problem.
I signed up with anthem at work and the cost for individual is $200.20 for medical + $29.70 dental + $3.45 vision a month
Approx $3,100 a year. Family much higher.
Why do you pay the high costs?
Anthem ceo gets $16.5 million a year. That includes a $3 million pay hike from last year. His competitors ceo’s make even more.
obamacare was starting at $10,000 deductible and several thousand a year when I checked it out. In other words no coverage. You just pay the ceo’s and the democrat party with cash and in the end your life.
Anthem prices will go up as they are in a court battle over a merger that did not happen.
Cigna is suing Anthem in a separate court case for $13 billion, plus the breakup fee
https://nypost.com/2017/03/20/anthem-ceos-3m-salary-hike-draws-criticism-from-wall-street/
Same here, but I tell the world. ;)
Why bother with health insurance if it doesn’t cover anything. I could never understand that nonsense. I am glad your doctor won her case
Not enough of them. The fund is still sucking down medicare and social security funds thus destroying those commitments.
rwood
Not enough of them. The fund is still sucking down medicare and social security funds thus destroying those commitments.
rwood
You are using the exchange because of the premium cost. You could still buy coverage even with the preexisting conditions because they can’t offer policies that deny coverage.
I know because I just did it and have every year since barky care began.
I paid $21K in premiums in 2017. I’ve always paid my way and everyone else’s to boot.
It is a scam and a stupid mess.
In our area for two of us, if we make about $62,000 we get a FULL subsidy and a Silver policy. If we make $62,000 plus ONE penny we get NO subsidy at all and pay $24,000 a year for a crappy Bronze plan that we have to pay an additional $4,500 a year per person in costs just to get the first covered dollar.
That one penny suddenly magically transports us from poverty to suddenly being richer than four feet up a bulls ass and flush with an additional $24,000 in cash.
What kind of a program is that?.
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