Posted on 11/25/2017 5:24:50 PM PST by nwrep
“Why would that matter?”
Really?
Male nurses are not my cup of tea.
There you go...
MY father & uncle were male nurses.
5 Aunts and Mother were nurses (NOT MALE)
See, you can dig deep enough and find a dissenter- no matter the subject...
Lets go for Double Jeopardy...
My Father was not only a Male Nurse, my Mothers mother was a Christian Scientist
AND my Father Catholic and Mother not..
IN todays jargon, I could become a triple mass murderer and get a pass because of my ‘birth background’
Oh we are also talking 1939 (for me) here....
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You won’t get them until Christ comes back.
Why don’t these people stand for their freedom of thought and freedom of speech and freedom from Mao re-education camps? They must be soy boys or beta males.
Perhaps not but it is interesting the double standards some have about male RN’s being “bad” of somehow “gay”(whatever!) but male doctors okay. Both will see you naked, perhaps saving your life.
This male RN, 31 years in with 18 in the ICU isn’t there to be “your cup of tea”...but you might get timely pain medicine or be kept alive or to console your family if God decides to take you home! Still, you’ll be safe...plenty of female RN’s if you prefer...assuming staff isn’t too short and my shift hasn’t been staffed with mostly males(which is happening more and more these days!)
Yes, really.
L
Keep up the good work. (It was a joke.)
There would be rightful social disapproval had he said the same of “black conductors”.
Just not the sort of thing that is supposed to be said publicly.
Also, of course, symphonies have been found to have discriminated against women in that many more have been chosen for positions when their sex has been obscured in the job interview and testing process.
“Yes, really.”
You don’t see how musicians’ morale can affect the quality of the music they play?
“You don’t see how musicians’ morale can affect the quality of the music they play?”
Not if they’re truly professionals.
L
“but it is interesting the double standards some have”
Nurses have traditionally been female, for a long time now. It’s only to be expected that people look askance on men who want a woman’s job. It’s not a matter of men being unable to do the job; it’s just creepy.
It’s a lot less creepy when the male nurse has been a corpsman or a medic. In the XlinBushBama crappy economy, it makes sense for a young man without a degree to parlay military experience into a real job.
A lot more of those ex-corpsmen and medics would probably go to medical school, if the seats weren’t taken by affirmative action admissions.
BTW: I don’t see any double standards here. Just people acting like people, and people not acting like people.
“Not if they’re truly professionals.”
Are you now, or have you ever been, a musician?
“Are you now, or have you ever been, a musician?”
The question is irrelevant. A professional in any field of endeavor does his or her job no matter what their “morale” happens to be at the moment.
For the record I played semi-professionally decades ago. My uncle played first chair clarinet for a symphony orchestra for over 25 years. Both my younger brother and his wife are trained musicians with Masters degrees in Performance. He plays the oboe and she sings opera.
Full disclosure, neither are working in that field now.
But once again, the question is irrelevant. Professionals do their jobs to the best of their abilities no matter what. If they don’t their not professionals but whining crybabies who thing they’re special.
L
"LEOPOLD!"
“But once again, the question is irrelevant.”
Your insistence on that point keeps putting me in mind of something I was told as a lad: some people play music; others just play notes.
One person can play a piece of music and evoke any of a range of emotions. There can be goosebumps, tears, chills, whatever. Another person can play the same music, letter perfect, and...nothing.
The difference is not in the listener.
Art goes beyond technique. Morale is important.
I’m so glad neither my brother nor sister in law became musicians. You’ve confirmed what I’ve long thought since my days of playing in a rock and roll band.
Musicians are largely a bunch of self indulgent, self important blow hards.
Music is no different from woodworking, masonry, stonework, welding, electrical or plumbing. It’s a field of endeavor like any other. The passion to do a good job comes from within. However musicians seem to be the only ones who need their egos stroked constantly by others.
And if they don’t get it they stink off whining and blaming others for their inability to perform when the time comes for them to step up and do their jobs.
L
Not too many actually have looked askance at male RN’s at least in the time period I have trained and have practiced.. there has been an explosion of new(after about 1985 or so) ofa lot of new nursing jobs and types of nursing jobs in and out of hospitals actually appeal to the male psyche...especially the more technical specialized fields critical care ICU, nurse-anesthetists, NP’s acting as hospital intensivists. Males in the field have often been credited for influencing and pushing for higher salaries for nurses which have benefited both the men and the women as well as positive changes in working conditions.
As for nurses being traditionally ‘female” that occurred as a historical bubble when Florence Nightingale and Clara Barton began the first modern movements for training of young women to be RN’s with standardized curricula backed by what was state of the art in medicine in the late 1800’s.(From about the 1880’s thru about 1975 or so it was assumed most RN’s would or should be female in the US and Europe)Before the 1870’s) Before that time, most military medics and doctors were males when it came to medicine and if you go back further into history, it often fell to monks and nuns to care for the sick.
Muslims would just love there to be male RN’s and Male Doctors for the men and female RN’s and female docs for the ladies....perhaps that should be the way to go...perhaps it would be less “creepy” for ya? Eh DSC? Wouldn’t you say? It’s creepy that male doc’s should also have female patients? Right DSC? Wouldn’t you say?
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