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To Avoid Debacles Like Roy Moore, Repeal The 17th Amendment
The Federalist ^ | November 16, 2017 | John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 11/17/2017 5:51:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Dilbert San Diego

Indeed. There are a plethora of reasons for repealing the Seventeenth, but Moore is not one of them.


21 posted on 11/17/2017 6:10:03 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Actually, I was thinking the repealing the 19th would be more efficacious.


22 posted on 11/17/2017 6:12:44 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Luke21

What do you think popular election did?

Arizona’s State House is not responsible here.


23 posted on 11/17/2017 6:14:06 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Not with the way males (versus men) vote today it wouldn’t.


24 posted on 11/17/2017 6:15:33 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Me too. The 17th should be repealed but not because of Roy Moore.


25 posted on 11/17/2017 6:15:51 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Lurker

I’ve said this for years. The two worst mistakes ever made were the ratification of the 16th and 17th Amendments.


Agreed.

The issue is repeal.

It’s sad that most Americans have no clue what the 17th amendment says, never mind the destruction it has brought.

Repeal should happen, but in practical terms? Not likely.

It’s complicated and the dynamics of human nature that were carefully considered when our Constitution was being drafted are no longer part of the equation today.

Repeal of the 17th is never going to happen under our current political process/system. We can’t even repeal 0bamacare or allow our President to set immigration policy.

The only path to repeal is by Article V, and even that will/is a huge task.


26 posted on 11/17/2017 6:18:43 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In order to repeal an amendment, it has to be legitimately passed first. Was the 17th Amendment ever really legitimately enacted?


27 posted on 11/17/2017 6:18:47 PM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Lurker

Please post your view of the effects of the 19th Amendment.


28 posted on 11/17/2017 6:18:50 PM PST by Architect of Avalon
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Will never happen. Shouldn’t have happened in the first place. How the heck did it happen? Amazing the me that 3/4 of the state would vote to give up that authority.


29 posted on 11/17/2017 6:19:27 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I agree with repeal of 17th.
I disagree with idea that Moore is a debacle...the debacle is the nature of the GOP-E.

Once again, you and I are on the same page.......are we twins?........lol


30 posted on 11/17/2017 6:20:16 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

“Please post your view of the effects of the 19th Amendment.”

Hillary Clinton.

Any more questions?

L


31 posted on 11/17/2017 6:21:41 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

PS. Since my mother always votes for conservatives, I must take offense to that.


32 posted on 11/17/2017 6:22:20 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

What debacle? This whole thing was a liberal dirty trick to begin with.


33 posted on 11/17/2017 6:24:55 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Olog-hai

I always felt the civil war had a hand in pushing the idea of a 17th. It was a power consolidation move by the federal government.

Even though pre-17th is basically a crony system, it left room for State Legislatures to decide on how the Senator came into office.

It was not thought out correctly. Had it passed that Senators could be recalled and that they couldn’t except out of state money for their campaigns — we wouldn’t be having this type of problem.


34 posted on 11/17/2017 6:25:51 PM PST by Fhios (Down with your fascism, up with our fascism.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

The question as to whether the Seventeenth was actually ratified by the proper number of states is still quite open.


35 posted on 11/17/2017 6:26:25 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

John Daniel Davidson is the debacle.


36 posted on 11/17/2017 6:27:32 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Fhios

How is pre-Seventeenth a crony system? Especially when post-Seventeenth is absolutely a crony system, even worse with the associated lobby system?


37 posted on 11/17/2017 6:28:06 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Lurker

She’s not POTUS.


38 posted on 11/17/2017 6:28:41 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Architect of Avalon

“Please post your view of the effects of the 19th Amendment.”

I’ll expand:

Roe v Wade
Bella Abzug
Geraldine Ferraro
Bill Clinton
Obama

Does that clear things up?

L


39 posted on 11/17/2017 6:28:56 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Olog-hai

“She’s not POTUS.”

Thank God. She did more than enough damage as a Senator and Secretary of State.

Thanks for proving my point.

L


40 posted on 11/17/2017 6:30:01 PM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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