[GoldenState_Rose]

Based on my experiences in that part of the world:

In terms of “order” (the order of tyranny, mind you) - yes, the Russian State is more stable.

But fragile.

The Ukrainian State less stable.

But, in terms of the general population at large even while acknowledgng fringe elements, the Ukrainians are more ready in mind and in spirit to build a truly civil and democratic society. To take control of their own destinies.

Give it time, but they will be the ones setting the example for young Russians. They already are and the Putin government knows it, which is why they have to work doubletime to control the media narrative that following Euromaidan Revolution, everything in Ukraine is a mess when in actuality, Crimea/Donbass situation was the precise catalyst Ukrainians needed to own their identity and solidify their sense of purpose to leave the Russian sphere of influence for good.

[Rashputin]

I know a tad more about Ukraine than you probably suspect and even a bit about Russia. Calling Russia fragile at this point is no different than calling California or Illinois fragile, it's true in one sense but not a valid overall statement of what the majority of the people and State can deal with.

Have a nice day