Analyst Says Judge Roy Moore Signature Inside Gloria Allred Accuser’s Yearbook Was FORGED

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[TigerClaws]

Known for his insightful take on politics, journalist and author Thomas Wictor believes Judge Roy Moore’s signature in Gloria Allred accuser Beverly Young Nelson’s yearbook is a forgery. Wictor’s shock claim are highlighted by four anomalies laid out below.

[rolling_stone]

different lights are used in examining questioned documents...we got lucky it showed up.

forensic exam can tell approximate dates and if they are different inks etc these days forensics can be very accurate by taking only a pinpoint of ink off the original

allred should have had the doc authenticated BEEFORE she went public..it might bite her in the a$$

[Political Junkie Too]

As far as I know, only the top two photos were posted by CNN, the rest were posted by others so I cannot assume authenticity.

That said, here is the second CNN photo:

The link is different from your photo.

CNN link: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOjAmBCWkAAMz9y.jpg

Anyway, is it possible that the angle of the shot is causing the light to reflect differently off of the ink?

Also, this second CNN photo is signed by a different photographer. Perhaps their cameras are different and the first photographer had a better lens or higher resolution/density?

-PJ

[txhurl]

A FReeper just noticed on classmates.com that Nelson and the first one graduated together in 79.

[spacejunkie2001]

I thought it looked like her hair was falling out

[hawkaw]

I just don’t know anyone who would sign his first and last name with the word “Love” before it. This whole thing is just bizarre and I have been trying to understand it all right from understanding why a guy in his 30s would be dating teenagers (Note - please do not respond on this point as I already received enough information on this). I think what really has me baffled is - if Moore was a guy that would go after and hurt young ladies 40 plus years ago, I would have thought he have kept it up when he was older (married or not) as leopards typically do not change their spots. But, there does not appear to be any evidence of him continuing this behavior.

[cynwoody]

The “M” in Merry is different from the “M” in Moore.

The M in Moore is part of his signature. People often style letters, particularly initial letters, in their signatures differently.

See post 132 for an example from 1783, in which the J in the writer's John Hancock differs significantly from two other capital Js in the text of the letter.

[cynwoody]

The video of the presser provides further evidence that the odd color shift in the autograph is not really there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLPyYOjjIXw&t=22m18s

[cynwoody]

The link is different from your photo.

I rehosted the photo on imgur.com. That way, they can't delete it or change it.

If you download both versions and run a binary compare, you will find that they are the same length (58,961 bytes) and bit-for-bit identical.

Anyway, is it possible that the angle of the shot is causing the light to reflect differently off of the ink?

That's possible.

It's also possible that the color shift is caused by over-compression. When you save a JPEG, you can set the compression level on a scale of 1 to 100. 80-90 will give excellent quality but a relatively large file. If you go for, say, 20, you will get a small file, but you run the risk of introducing noticeable compression artifacts.

Also, this second CNN photo is signed by a different photographer. Perhaps their cameras are different and the first photographer had a better lens or higher resolution/density?

The two photos definitely appear to have been taken by different cameras (or possibly the same camera with different settings). The first photo has ColorSync profile sRGB built-in. The second has no ColorSync profile.

[Political Junkie Too]

Thanks. I'm glad someone saved them separately.

Is it possible that compression would treat the ink on one part of the photo differently than other parts of the same photo? Is it possible for compression to alter just the part that is most suspicious, and not even be streaky throughout the whole photo?

It sounds like the first camera is more sophisticated and capable of taking truer color photos?

I think I know the answers. You can treat these as rhetorical questions if you like. Thanks for your knowledgeable answers.

-PJ

[haircutter]

Certainly didn’t looked groomed as it usually is..

She just looked and sounded totally different to me..she needs to be aware she can lose a lot of her viewers and I’m one of them...I’m very weak Fox viewer and only watch a few shows..

Winter setting in here in the Mountains and rural America so I’ll get my ‘puzzle’ table set up , keep busy with housekeeping chores. and helping haul in fire wood, and shovel out a long, long drive way!!! and my lap top is more usable than the TV and Fox is...Plus my three fur kids keep us busy, especially in winter getting them dressed to go out and then they want to play and bring all the mess in with them!!! but love them so that is OK....

[Political Junkie Too]

Really? I would think the video camera doesn't have the resolution capability of the still camera, which is why the SLR saw more spectrally than the video.

I used the example earlier of the time back in 2004 when John Kerry's daughter was wearing an opaque evening gown to a gala event, but the gown became transparent to the cameras. Perhaps it was the power of the flash bulbs, but there was clearly something the camera saw that the naked eye did not.

Could there be something about the ink that the camera sees at certain angles and lightning that the eye does not? What would explain why only the part with different writing style is affected by distorted coloring, and not the whole photo or random parts of the photo?

Can you explain to a layman like me why you trust the video camera more than the professional photographer's SLR camera to capture the truest image?

-PJ

[cynwoody]

Can you explain to a layman like me why you trust the video camera more than the professional photographer's SLR camera to capture the truest image?

The resolution is typically less, but you get to see the material from different angles in sequence. Also, in both cases (still and video), what you are seeing has been processed by software algorithms, which sometimes screw up one aspect of an image while attempting to correct another.

Here's a screen shot from the video of the press conference:

The color of the autograph ink looks quite uniform to me. If the blue ink were really there, it ought to show in all the images.

I used the example earlier of the time back in 2004 when John Kerry's daughter was wearing an opaque evening gown to a gala event, but the gown became transparent to the cameras. Perhaps it was the power of the flash bulbs

That was probably the flash. Apparently, only the cameras could see her boobs, not the audience.

From a 2007 interview of Alexandra Kerry:

Q: I hate to begin this way, but when I Googled you, all these sites came up devoted to the incident on the red carpet at Cannes in 2004, when your gown became transparent.

A: I know -- 73 pages of the dress. It's such a shame. I saw the heads of Google last summer, and I joked with them: "How do I get this off your site?"

Q: Did you know as soon as the flashbulbs went off what was happening?

A: No! I walked through the whole thing and nobody said a word. It wasn't until the next morning when my press person said, "We have a little problem..." Then my stepbrother checked the Internet, and he was like, "Don't look!" It was a complete shock and surprise. Even more of a surprise was that people made it as much of an issue as they did.

[Shethink13]

You would normally pay for your school yearbook before the school year ends and then pick it up at the beginning of the next school year.

Well that would suck for graduating seniors, wouldn't it?

[rolling_stone]

The VSC-1 and VSC-4CX are instruments designed to detect the different optical properties of document materials. Unlike the VSC-1, the VSC-4CX is a portable instrument that can be taken outside the laboratory to examine documents in law offices, court rooms or other off-site locations.

VSC testing is non-destructive and does not alter the appearance or condition of a document. These instruments are particularly effective at detecting alterations to documents, restoring erased entries, revealing original writing that has been obliterated, obscured or overwritten and differentiating inks that cannot otherwise be distinguished by the naked eye.

.....Inks from different writing instruments often react differently when illuminated with ultraviolet and infrared light. These differences can easily be detected with the VSC-1 and VSC-2CX......

could be an infrared or other filter like flourescent light filter on the camera caused different colors to show up.

http://www.fdeservices.com/Equipment.htm

[Political Junkie Too]

It seems to me from your video grab that the inscription up to "Roy" is bolder and more defined than the "Moore..." that follows. It's almost as if the first part was pressed more deeply into the paper, resulting in a more precise edging. Either that, or it is a darker ink. Either way, I see a difference in the clarity of the text.

Does it look that way to you?

-PJ

[rodguy911]

Times were indeed different,its a whole new world today moving at warp speed.

[rodguy911]

I think you are right. Handwriting is very difficult to analyze. I would never venture an opinion. There are those who can.

[smokingfrog]

Distribution

Often, yearbooks are distributed at the end of a school year to allow students, teachers, and other members of the school to obtain the books and signatures/personal messages from classmates. In the U.S., those that distribute at this time may publish a supplemental insert with photographs from spring sports and milestone events (such as prom and graduation) and other important events. Many schools at which yearbooks are distributed at or before the end of a school year have a tradition of having students sign and leave notes on each other’s yearbooks.

Some schools distribute yearbooks after the end of the school year—such as in July, at homecoming (US) in October or another designated time in order to include year-end activities. In some cases, yearbooks are mailed to the parents’ homes of graduated seniors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yearbook

If you publish before the end of the year, you don’t have photos of the senior graduation, top scholars etc. in the yearbook. I guess maybe trends have changed over the years.

[QuigleyDU]

I�m sick of your negative comments about this race. You are not an Alabamian, so SHUT UP sir.

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I will not, nor are my comments negative, they very closely represent the reality of the situation.

If FR evolves from a community of generally the most informed Americans on Americanism(conservatism) who share their opinionsn the most important issues effecting our futures into some hyper partisan, “defined by non thinking”, immature, and quite ineffective, bullying site(just like the left), then I’ll move on.

[backwoods-engineer]

On the contrary, they're quite negative, and defeatist. You're willing to throw Roy Moore under the bus and get the Democrat elected. I live here. You don't. I have to live with the consequences of your insane desire to see a Democrat elected. You don't.

Again, your opinion on this race doesn't matter, because you don't live here.

Maybe you should move on to the other "DU" -- Democrat Underground.