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Gillespie Ran a JEB! Campaign in a Trump World
PJ Media ^ | 11/7/17 | Christian Adams

Posted on 11/08/2017 6:46:12 AM PST by beejaa

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To: beejaa

The government has gotten bigger since the 1930’s and this ended up making northern Virginia very liberal and Democrat leaning.

The Republican don’t want to dismantle big government so they have sown their own demise in statewide elections.


21 posted on 11/08/2017 7:15:03 AM PST by Spiridon
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To: beejaa

When that campaign started I opined here on FR that Gillespie would lose. He’s low energy like Jeb. He badmouthed the Trump philosophy. And according to Laura Ingraham this morning he ran on a 21 Point Program. I can see eyes glazing over just thinking about him droning on about his 21 points!


22 posted on 11/08/2017 7:17:33 AM PST by Tucker39 (Read: Psalm 145. The whole psalm.....aloud; as praise to our God.)
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To: Tucker39

Gillespie was a moderate Republican who lost big in a Blue State.

The kind of milquetoast Republican who doesn’t offend any one. No one was excited by him.

In a state Trump lost by 5 points, he got trounced by 8.


23 posted on 11/08/2017 7:27:07 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Tucker39
Laura Ingraham had Gillespie as a guest on her show Monday night. He repeated his talking points about his 21 point plan in the style of Jeb Bush, or any other boring establishment RINO from the 1990s. It was pathetic, and he lost my interest in the first thirty seconds.

I can just imagine what a rally with the guy was like - the ushers would go around at the end and wake everybody up.

Gillespie apparently saw what happened in the presidential election and figured he would bring together the campaign strategies of Jeb Bush, John Kasich, and Kelly Ayotte.

24 posted on 11/08/2017 7:42:54 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Mouton

“It was like a different country. Restaurants jammed, people well dressed seemingly without a care in the world. It was like the Eloi world.”

More evidence billions of dollars in federal spending can be cut without negatively impacting essential services. The GOP has controlled the House of Representatives and the purse since 2011, yet nothing has been cut. Notice in the tax debate this year, the concept of paying for tax cuts with spending cuts is being totally ignored by the GOP Congress and the GOP president.


25 posted on 11/08/2017 7:49:26 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: Salvavida

“Conservatives and Christians didn’t show up”
I am one of them (but a VOTING Christian and conservative). So many are so self-righteous about these elections. It’s like they think everybody is watching them to give them a clap for being so principled to not vote for a RINO or less than perfect Republican.


26 posted on 11/08/2017 7:50:21 AM PST by Antipolitico
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To: TexasGurl24

Welcome to Free Republic!

You are correct on all points. I see many here who want to dismiss the Gillespie loss on his failure to fully embrace Trump. They are whistling past the graveyard since the pro Trump Lt Gov candidate lost her race by the same margin.

Virginia used to be 1/3 GOP,1/3 dem, and 1/3 moderate swing voters. In 2009 the year after barry, McDonnell won with 58% of the vote. I think now the moderates have been polarized with most going to the dems.

Gillespie is DOA now. Expect Corey Stewart to get slaughtered by timmy kaine in 2018.

Virginia is gone now. Those of you still in free districts need to avoid complacency or else wind up like Virginia.


27 posted on 11/08/2017 7:50:38 AM PST by Ceebass
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To: beejaa

Gillespie didn’t try to persuade anyone. He just tried to get people to like him. Trump took bold positions on things that persuaded people to get off their back side and go campaign and vote. Much like the Gipper did.


28 posted on 11/08/2017 7:54:38 AM PST by IamConservative (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Ceebass

The Republican Party is in the process of splintering. The good news is that the Democratic Party is also in the process of splintering. Two new parties will emerge out of this chaos, but probably not until after the Second Civil War.


29 posted on 11/08/2017 8:00:31 AM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: G Larry; All

The GOP wants to lose every election so they can say “Trumpism is dead.”


30 posted on 11/08/2017 8:02:10 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: beejaa

I’ll be frank, I didn’t know much about the race. But since the election I’ve noticed the establishment elite has been working hard to seize control back from the populist grassroots Trump voters.

The media is willingly making the mistake that simply because Trump endorses someone he is a “Trump” candidate. They aren’t, and the grassroots voters are onto this and simply don’t turn out. In a Democrat state like VA, that was taken over by the bureaucrats in DC in the North, this makes a BIG difference.

I noticed on election night 2016 the MSM anchors kept saying the reason VA was Democrat was because of “latinos”. No.

VA has gone Democrat because since 1980 the DC bureaucracy and regulatory agencies have grown so astronomically that most of these people have relocated to northern VA, and these are the most stalwart Democrat, unionist, protectionist of their job voters you can imagine. They are also ethnic in every way, but they know who signs their checks - Democrat tax and spenders. And they vote that way. The heck with anyone else.


31 posted on 11/08/2017 8:28:45 AM PST by I still care (The left's goal never was tolerance. It always was fascism.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
For years Virginia politics has been marred by an entrenched establishment, chamber of commerce, good ol' boy network. Every time a conservative candidate wins a nomination, the good ol' boy GOP network works to sabotage him.

Not just nominated candidates but those who are elected.

My friend and neighbor won a seat in the VA House of Delegates. He is very conservative and a very good man. When he showed up in Richmond the entrenched GOPe idiots who run everything refused to put him on committees and told him to just shut up as they had ways of doing things that had been around for decades and they were not going to change anything.

Heck, there are many in the VA GOP who were Democrats until the Republican wave hit in the 90s and they just changed parties and kept getting reelected. Nothing changed but the letter after their name.

32 posted on 11/08/2017 8:31:41 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: beejaa

Hopefully the Gillespie loss will drive a stake through the “Vote for the candidate because he has an ‘R’ after his name.” meme.


33 posted on 11/08/2017 8:35:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I expect to see a number of his type become extinct in the elections next year, along with corker and flake.

The more the merrier!

34 posted on 11/08/2017 8:45:48 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: Antipolitico
Agreed. These are the same people that swear they will take up arms if forced to turn in their weapons. They will scream 2nd Amendment and "Come and Take It" all day long from the safety of their keyboards.

Yet they can't drag their carcass down to their precinct and vote: which means they will fold like a lawn chair when the moment of truth comes.

Absolutely disgusting VIRGINIA. Shameful. Disgraceful. You get the government you deserve.

35 posted on 11/08/2017 8:47:21 AM PST by Salvavida (The Missouri citizen's militia sends its regards.)
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To: Ceebass
They are whistling past the graveyard since the pro Trump Lt Gov candidate lost her race by the same margin.

Gillespie lost by 8.9%; Vogel lost by 5.37%. She received 49,837 more votes than Gillespie.

That means that nearly 50,000 voters voted for Vogel but did NOT vote for Gillespie.

Not being the prime candidate, she was caught by the Democratic sweep.

36 posted on 11/08/2017 8:50:59 AM PST by olezip
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To: I still care

“I noticed on election night 2016 the MSM anchors kept saying the reason VA was Democrat was because of “latinos”. No.”

Actually, that’s true.

Northern Virginia is Vote Fraud Central.
No, not rigged machines and hackers and cemetery precincts.
It is the huge number of illegal aliens (Hispanic) and green card aliens (South Asia and the Middle East) who have been registered by the democrats and their agents like the SEIU and vote in the tens of thousands.

There are no checks in Virginia on citizenship. If you show up with a driver’s license and you are registered, you vote.

Spend a few hours as a pollwatcher and you will be amazed at the number of voters who can’t speak English (a naturalization requirement) and a democrat sample ballot.

The ballots themselves are printed in 4 languages (with Arabic soon to be added) so that the illegals and green carders can read where to place their marks.

And don’t blame the democrats.
For years the establishment Republicans, like Gillespie and his donors) have refused to stop it. They are really just agents for the Chamber of Commerce and the cheap labor businesses. They refused to support Trump last year, many even going over to Hillary, just like they stabbed Cuccinelli earlier. They treat the Republican base as Deplorables like Hillary did.

Yesterday, the Deplorables told them to go to hell.

Virginia is now like California, permanently democrat.
Don’t worry - Trump won without Virginia, so he won’t need it in 2020.


37 posted on 11/08/2017 9:03:32 AM PST by oldbill
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To: Salvavida
Conservatives and Christians didn't show up.

Down-ticket candidates and issues win or lose dependent upon who's at the top of the ticket. Conservatives and Christians stifled yawns over Gillespie, so this other nonsense went through. It happens every time.

The GOP at least got a chance to be gentlemanly losers again, so there's that. I can just see Bill Kristol, George Will, and John Boehner smirking with pride and gently clinking wine glasses at such a good showing!

38 posted on 11/08/2017 9:12:41 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks beejaa.
Gillespie ran a Jeb campaign in a Trump world. In fact, he avoided the president and the president’s supporters noticed.

39 posted on 11/08/2017 9:24:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: beejaa

This wasn’t a loss for Trump or the “Trump Train”.

This was GOPe getting its sh** shoved in as is usual because they’re stupid, weak, feckless and incompetent.

Note to GOPe. You don’t figure this out real quick you’re done. Permanently. You provide candidates acceptable to the mindset that voted for Trump or you’re finished.

Your years of playing the punk for the DNC, of lying through your teeth to us then dropping trousers and bending over for them is over.

You are them. Voting for any of your degenerate ilk is no different from voting for a D.

The Tea Party was a shot across your bow. Trump was a full broadside amidships and your boilers are busted, magazines on fire and you’re sinking fast. Every time you put one of your usual suspects up for office, we load a torpedo and send it.


40 posted on 11/09/2017 12:56:12 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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