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Those battered by opioid epidemic applaud Trump effort, but ask 'where's the money?'
USA Today | Oct. 27, 2017

Posted on 10/27/2017 12:57:32 PM PDT by Wolfie

Edited on 10/27/2017 1:14:10 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: LIConFem
"And do the same to China, since a lot of the drugs originate from there."

I was of the same opinion before but have begun to see the light. The drugs coming from China have been killing part of the problem. Hopefully, they'll make them even more potent and get rid of the problem altogether.

Just take cover, and keep the kids off the toxic streets, until it's over. Don't let them touch anything outside their homes without thinking twice. When it's all over, we can put on protective suits and clean up the garbage with front end loaders, dump trucks and scrapers (earth movers for digging the pits).


41 posted on 10/27/2017 1:35:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: from occupied ga

None of that provides a reason to not start killing heroin dealers AFAIC.


42 posted on 10/27/2017 1:35:42 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: LIConFem

That’s actually a good idea. I wish I had thought of that.


43 posted on 10/27/2017 1:37:10 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: RC one
"I like Duerte. He definitely has the right idea with regards to the drug problem and I’m glad to see our wrinkly relationship with him smoothing out after the Trump election."

I was thrilled to see them warm up to each other! Maybe they'll come up with a good plan together. I was very much against nominating Trump before the election but was fooled! Very impressed with everything he's doing so far!


44 posted on 10/27/2017 1:40:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Gay State Conservative

I think the drug cartels of today have a particularly effective business model. Theirs is a ruthless multi-billion dollar industry aimed directly at the US market place. It can’t be ignored IMO. Ignoring it will not make it go away, it will make it much worse.


45 posted on 10/27/2017 1:40:41 PM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Wolfie
Let's take the money from Federal coverage of opioids (all health insurances including Federal unions) and use it to hair follicle drug test all Federal check recipients and drug screen all state and Federal potential employees. That would cut the budget and opioid use and get those with drug fried brains out of the bureaucracy.
46 posted on 10/27/2017 1:45:36 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: Wolfie

It doesn’t take money to tell big pharm, you will not commit genocide on the American people any longer.

I’m sure the politicians who rely heavily on big pharm donations will be asking ‘where’s the money’, too. Too bad for them. Party’s over.


47 posted on 10/27/2017 1:48:46 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Jacquerie
Younger addicts will still get their fix, one way or another.

Yes, courtesy of our southern border and our leftist jerks. We know a family whose young SIL is addicted because he is stupid. He's got a wife and two kids and he keeps going into rehab and starts again.

One day he came home from work at lunch time and frantically tore up the house while his MIL was watching the kids. Freaked her and the kids out big time. Needed a fix and was hoping he could find an old stash.

Meanwhile, people who need medication will be undergoing major monitoring. I know someone who had a major painful procedure. The doc said he could only give him one week of pills.

48 posted on 10/27/2017 1:49:07 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Wolfie

That is the biggest issue with drug problem. We have addiction without any discipline! Just keeping them alive with Narcan and then giving them some kind of assistance to so-called help them! That is the wrong avenue. There should be some kind of discipline that comes with it. Like make them work at controlled jobs that they can be monitored and tested when needed. Free money will not fix a thing!


49 posted on 10/27/2017 1:49:51 PM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: ricmc2175

Let’s start the drug testing with congress. All the ex-Goldman people in the admin will probably be coked up too.


50 posted on 10/27/2017 1:50:00 PM PDT by socalgop
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To: RC one
I think the drug cartels of today have a particularly effective business model. Theirs is a ruthless multi-billion dollar industry aimed directly at the US market place. It can’t be ignored IMO. Ignoring it will not make it go away, it will make it much worse.

Outback Steakhouse has a very effective business model too.I absolutely adore their products and I drive past the one near my house almost every day.But several doctors have given me warnings regarding my diet so I don't hit the turn signal as I approach.

I'm not suggesting that they be ignored.I'd just like to see us adopt Singapore's policy on drug dealers:mandatory death sentence.

The first time I saw that sign at the Immigration Desk at Singapore's Airport I almost soiled myself...and all I had on me were blood pressure meds.

51 posted on 10/27/2017 1:52:09 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Wolfie

I’m going to predict the net effect of these (well intended) gov’t actions will be to make it nearly impossible people in pain to get any kind of relief.


52 posted on 10/27/2017 1:54:56 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Wolfie
“Opioid Epidemic”

This is so exaggerated.

There were about 15,000 prescription opioid deaths last year. That's up from about 4,000 prescription opioid deaths in 1999.

About half of those deaths were suicides.

Most of the other deaths involved people who dangerously combined alcohol or other drugs with their prescription opioid.

Therapy can help only a limited percentage of people with suicidal tendencies.

And, there has never been a therapy for reckless or stupid behavior.

The only “solution” is legislative...

The consequence of this bogus “epidemic” is that people who have severe intractable pain will now need to fight a monthly war with their doctor to obtain prescriptions.

And the price of those drugs will dramatically increase because most drug makers are going to drop out of this legally dangerous business.

And, completely useless federally funded “pain clinics” will sprout like mushrooms.

Full Disclosure...

As a life long runner, I have exceptionally high pain tolerance.

But, I also have sincere empathy for those who do not have high pain tolerance.

I do not understand why they need to suffer because less than 1% of the population abuses prescription opioids.

53 posted on 10/27/2017 2:02:49 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: airborne

There is simply no way that is true.


54 posted on 10/27/2017 2:09:25 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: socalgop

Good start, Congress critters and their staffers drug tested.


55 posted on 10/27/2017 2:09:45 PM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: grania
patients learning to cope with pain

Some chronic back pain is severe and unrelenting when the person tries to function. They can only try to find the most comfortable position in bed and that is their life. Can't work, can't concentrate, can't do most of the things we do.

For those kinds of pain, the drugs don't even do much, other than to knock them out for a few hours. They would give anything if someone could "teach them to cope" with it.

56 posted on 10/27/2017 2:11:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m pretty aware of my personality so I’ve always been cautious with painkillers. I really like painkillers, and it could go really bad for me if I messed with them.

I did a count one day. I know 26 people who have either died, OD’ed, or been arrested due to involvement with heroin. Hey, I grew up in Appalachia. Some of these made sense. The majority do not. You don’t expect the kid raised by devout LDS parents to become an addict.

By the way, here is how people OD. You stop for a few weeks. You fall off the wagon. You take the same amount you took before you stopped. Your body has adjusted and now what you are taking is far too much.


57 posted on 10/27/2017 2:14:56 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: Wolfie

I don’t see a link.


58 posted on 10/27/2017 2:16:57 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: familyop

I’m not perfect enough to be a Freeper.


59 posted on 10/27/2017 2:17:35 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: montag813

Not all drug addicts are kids and the kids that are don’t all have parents as you judgmentally describe.


60 posted on 10/27/2017 2:22:13 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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