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Former NPR CEO opens up about liberal media bias
New York Post ^ | 10/21/2017 | Ken Stern

Posted on 10/21/2017 12:42:02 PM PDT by ForYourChildren

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To: ForYourChildren
Yep, they misunderstand stories and they misunderstand people. I am struck by the degree to which leftists misjudge the character of conservatives. I know my own heart and I know my conservative friends' hearts, and I know we're nothing like how the left believes us to be.
21 posted on 10/21/2017 2:25:01 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ClearCase_guy
his conclusion is that Trump is wrong to attack the media, and it is too bad that so few people respect the media, because the media is so important to having a united country. What?
Some may take pleasure in the discomfort of the media, but it is not a good situation for the country to have the media in disrepute and under constant attack. Virtually every significant leader of this nation, from Jefferson on down, has recognized the critical role of an independent press to the orderly functioning of democracy.
"Advertisements... contain the only truths to be relied on in a newspaper.”

- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Nathaniel Macon, January 12, 1819 (link)

Journalists know that they are negative, and yet claim to be objective. But “the conceit that negativity is objectivity” is hard to improve on as definition of “cynicism.”

Per Thomas Paine, “society” and “government” are pretty much antonyms, in the sense that society is “a patron,” whereas government is “a punisher.” Society is “a blessing,” and government is (at best a necessary) “evil." Common Sense Thus, skepticism of society tends to justify government - and cynicism toward society naturally corresponds to naive faith in government.

Journalists tend, therefore, naturally to be “liberals.” This tendency is strongly reinforced by the homogenizing effects of the wire services, especially the Associated Press.


22 posted on 10/21/2017 2:49:01 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Great article, but he still thinks the MSM only seems to have bias because they don’t “get around” conservatives.

Still, this was a good read.


23 posted on 10/21/2017 3:04:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ForYourChildren

Bkmrk.


24 posted on 10/21/2017 3:07:47 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Screw The NFL!!!!!! My family fought for the flag!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I reached the same conclusion. He readily admits that the mainstream media is made up of elitists who don’t relate at all to the mainstream people, but yet does nothing to call for change within their bigoted domains. Far easier to just blame Trump.

I disagree with his final point that both sides are short-term winners. Trump is proof that their side has lost the heartland. They’ll never get it back with the trash they’re pushing and the gang of bigots doing their reporting.


25 posted on 10/21/2017 3:11:17 PM PDT by untwist (One Bad-Assed Mistake, America!)
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To: ForYourChildren

Where did that come from. Blue lines are to be expect, however, many of the red lines look way too low!


26 posted on 10/21/2017 3:16:05 PM PDT by TruthWillWin (The problem wiath socialists is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: exDemMom

Truly thinking people would be able to look at, for example, the poverty programs, and ask themselves if the current system is achieving the stated goals.


President Johnson declared war on poverty. That was over 50 years ago. I have yet to hear anyone in the mainstream media talk about whether we have achieved the objectives of that war on poverty.

We never hear anyone talk about whether these Democrat inspired anti-poverty programs have achieved results.

We never hear Republican politicians discuss it either. Maybe because the way the media frame discussions, it would be presented as callous/cruel/racist/disrespecting single mothers, to have an honest discussion of the war on poverty, its successes and failures, and where we might go from here?


27 posted on 10/21/2017 3:21:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: BobL

ah yes, I remember the farm crisis.

I remember the Jessica Lange movie, “Country”, which dealt with that crisis. Also, “Places in the Heart”, with Sally Field, was another farm movie of the ‘80s.

Leave it to Hollywood to jump in and make a political statement.


28 posted on 10/21/2017 3:24:31 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ForYourChildren
Virtually every significant leader of this nation, from Jefferson on down, has recognized the critical role of an independent press to the orderly functioning of democracy.

But as you point out sir, you are not an independent press but bought and paid for advocates of only one side of the debate.

You report nothing without running it through the DNC talking points filter and if it does not promote your point of view you squash it like a bug.

29 posted on 10/21/2017 3:39:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: ForYourChildren

This is an amazing article. So glad that a media titan of his stature made the leap into reality and fact-finding.


30 posted on 10/21/2017 3:56:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: ForYourChildren

This is an amazing article. So glad that a media titan of his stature made the leap into reality and fact-finding.


31 posted on 10/21/2017 3:56:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: ClearCase_guy
And his conclusion is that Trump is wrong to attack the media...

He wants to still get invited to the liberal parties in DC.

32 posted on 10/21/2017 3:57:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The liberal response is always to cast as cruel those who question the programs. Unfortunately, the questioners usually cave, and often even apologize. It would be nice to see more people with backbone stand up and confront liberals instead of caving.

Some time ago, I got into a sort of chatroom discussion on the value of teaching proper English to disadvantaged children. There was a liberal who called me mean and claimed that my point of view reflects lack of cultural awareness, etc. That liberal finally gave up when I pointed out that poor English skills doom poor kids to staying poor, and that if there is any hope of getting them out of those impoverished environments and having a chance of success, we have an obligation to teach them proper spelling and grammar.

Too many liberal positions crumble when critically examined, and their assumptions (e.g. that endless welfare handouts are beneficial by preventing poor people from starving) do not hold up to rigorous analysis. But they are allowed to be the only voice in too many situations, and so may be completely unaware of the shortcomings of their cherished narratives.


33 posted on 10/21/2017 4:18:26 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: ForYourChildren
The way in which normal people understand stories, and the way in which the leftist understand the same story, is quite different.

That's because true believer left-wingers are not educated, or even influenced; they are fully indoctrinated, brainwashed in every sense, and the purpose of their indoctrination is to get them to believe an alternate version of reality. One of the reasons that the Left is hemorrhaging support is because all of the people who leaned left because they were raised by leftists, or all their friends were leftists, or they just only ever saw the leftist viewpoint on TV as they grew up, but were not successfully indoctrinated, are now able to see the Left for what it is, or at least see the cracks, because the Left has gone past the point of sanity and well into ridiculous territory.

As for the nature of the indoctrination, it goes like this: reality says that women and men are differnet. Every day observance supports this. People who are leftist but not indoctrinated will recognize this fact, even if they still insist on the same rights for women, but people who are indoctrinated leftists will NOT accept this fact because they have been conditioned to believe in a reality where men and women are EXACTLY the same. To them, the physical world they inhabit consists of men and women who are no different, to the point where they believe that sex (gender in their terms) doesn't even matter.

If you tell a normal person that men and women are exactly the same, that normal person will reject the idea because their life experience has taught them that it is obviously not true. An unindoctrinated leftist will, at first, believe this assertion, but is still open to changing their thinking based on increased knowledge and experience, and thus will eventually reject this idea upon being in the real world long enough.

An indoctrinated leftist will be conditioned to believe this concept so completely, that when they see evidence to the contrary in the real world, they don't reject the idea, THEY REJECT THE REAL WORLD. They do this by explaining away the disparity using indoctrination buzzwords, such as "sexism" "misogyny" and the various phobias, or claim that patriarchal gender norms have to be removed before we achieve true equality, etc., or that the person showing them the contradicting evidence is just an evil right-winger. And it really does not matter how much information you give them, or how many demonstrations, or how much real-world experience. Their reality is one where men and women are the same, and anything that challenges that idea, in their minds, is challenging reality, the same as if someone told us normal people that tomorrow gravity will reverse and we'll all fly like birds.

As this relates to interpretation of literature, indoctrinated leftists will read such books as 1984 or the Robin Hood legends, and are capable of accepting only the parts that fit this indoctrinated world view. Hillary's "government is God" worldview demands that she read 1984 with that filter in place, because if it is considered a great book, and therefore valid, then it must say what she wants it to say. So, we all read how Big Brother is bad, and Hillary reads it as "people are wrong to hate Big Brother" because to accept the "Big Brother is bad" concept would be to contradict her "government is God" indoctrination and that simply cannot happen.
34 posted on 10/21/2017 7:39:04 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Very good. Thanks.

“..if it is considered a great book, and therefore valid, then it must say what she wants it to say.”

I agree. And to put in another way with modernism and post-modernism terms.

The fully indoctrinated has rejected reality and truth.

Whereas previously “modernism” was the rejection of God as the ultimate source of truth, beauty and goodness; modernism was the thought that truth, beauty and goodness could only be found through reason. Objective truth still existed but only through scientific reason, not through God.

Postmodernism has now rejected that even objective truth exists. Basically, postmodernism says that there exists many truths, and any individuals self-referential truth is just as valid, and actually is more valid than anyone else’s. Therefore, since any one individual truth is the only one truth, then if possible that individual is allowed and expected to enforce their truth via force and power. Which leads us to the anarchy we see today.

From wiki, “postmodernism is typically defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony or rejection toward grand narratives, ideologies and various tenets of universalism, including objective notions of reason, human nature, social progress, moral universalism, absolute truth, and objective reality.”

“Instead, it asserts to varying degrees that claims to knowledge and truth are products of social, historical or political discourses or interpretations, and are therefore contextual or socially constructed. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, irreverence and self-referentiality.”

Lots more could be said on this.

But in this Post-modern and Post-Christian world we are seeing very interesting things occurring.

Whereas previously


35 posted on 10/21/2017 9:53:05 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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