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Justifying Betrayal of Vietnam Emerges as the Raison d’être Of Ken Burns’ Film on the War
NY Sun ^ | October 11, 2017 1.6K342 | By PHILLIP JENNINGS, Special to the Sun

Posted on 10/18/2017 6:25:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The only positive thing I can say about Ken Burns’ documentary on the Vietnam War is this — if it is the best the left has, we may blessedly have heard the last of them. The arguments Mr. Burns presents are weak, biased, and insulting. The documentary is scripted to evoke sorrow and moral indignation over what was presented as American error, ineptness, and lack of moral purpose.

The narrative counterposes happy and earnest winners (the communists) with sad and angst-ridden losers (America and the South Vietnamese). It deemed only such perspectives worthy of inclusion. Mr. Burns fails to find even one American or South Vietnamese veteran who wholly supported the war, was proud to have appeared in arms, and sickened by the United States’ abandonment its freedom-seeking ally.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of us.

No doubt, too, there were North Vietnamese who are critical of the brutality of the communist conduct of the war, but Mr. Burns can’t find them either. We have no way of knowing whether the happy and earnest communist veterans who did appear in the documentary participated in the war crimes — the execution of thousands of civilians — in Hue or any of the countless acts of North Vietnamese-sponsored terrorism.

The Burns documentary accepts without question five pillars of the liberal view of the war:

1. There was moral equivalency between the U.S. and Communist forces, and the goals and objectives of the respective governments.

No there wasn’t. Communist North Vietnam invaded a South Vietnam striving for democracy. The South Vietnamese posed no threat to the North other than by their example. The North had no inherent right to conquer South Vietnam, and the South Vietnamese had no obligation to “vote themselves communist” in 1955....

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KEYWORDS: kenburns; propaganda; vietnam; vietnamwar
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Does she have any nice stories about the benevolence of Ho Chi Minh?”

As I suspected, you were making a personal attack but I was giving you a chance.

My wife was in Saigon, not Hanoi. She knows the difference.

Don’t attack her for what I post. Too bad you don’t want to see the truth.


41 posted on 10/19/2017 9:46:10 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

LOL! My wife had to hide in the rice paddies at night and walk over spent casing to get back to her house.

One night her neighbor’s entire family ‘disappeared’.

Her class went from 62 to 38 one year and no one had any idea where they went and no one even discussed it.

Most were Buddhists but the hid their religion. If a government official came to you, you were asked your religion. For your safety you replied either none or Catholic.


42 posted on 10/19/2017 9:54:44 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

Did I deny there was corruption in South Vietnam? No, I did not. Did I make any disparaging remarks about either you or you wife? No, I did not. I was simply curious why you wouldn’t couch your comments about obvious wrongdoing in the regime backed by the US with a mention of the worse abuses by the communists. Is there any government on earth that is free of corruption?

If your wife was in Saigon, I mean Ho Chi Minh City, then surely she knows of the killings of cilivians by the reds from 1945 through the Tet Offensive on on to the fall of the ROV.


43 posted on 10/19/2017 9:57:06 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Did I deny there was corruption in South Vietnam? No, I did not. Did I make any disparaging remarks about either you or you wife? No, I did not. I was simply curious why you wouldn’t couch your comments about obvious wrongdoing in the regime backed by the US with a mention of the worse abuses by the communists. Is there any government on earth that is free of corruption?”

ROTFLMAO!


44 posted on 10/19/2017 10:00:33 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

And she knows how much the Japanese were hated. Guess who was buddies with the Japanese ‘back then’ ...


45 posted on 10/19/2017 10:08:29 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

Glad I could give you a chuckle, though I have no idea why.


46 posted on 10/19/2017 12:25:04 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TexasGator

So I was right. She did like Uncle Ho.


47 posted on 10/19/2017 12:26:12 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“So I was right. She did like Uncle Ho”

You are a sick puppy.


48 posted on 10/19/2017 3:21:04 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Glad I could give you a chuckle, though I have no idea why.”

Probably because your posts are so dumb?


49 posted on 10/19/2017 3:21:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

You might be right. But something tells me I might be dead waiting for any sort of negative remarks from you regarding the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the NVA, or the Viet Cong.


50 posted on 10/19/2017 3:56:16 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TexasGator

Speaking of personal attacks....


51 posted on 10/19/2017 3:57:02 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“You might be right. But something tells me I might be dead waiting for any sort of negative remarks from you regarding the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, the NVA, or the Viet Cong.”

ROTFLMAO!


52 posted on 10/19/2017 4:09:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Speaking of personal attacks....”

You are full of them!


53 posted on 10/19/2017 4:10:12 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

I haven’t made a single personal attack toward you and you know it.


54 posted on 10/19/2017 4:23:14 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“I haven’t made a single personal attack toward you and you know it.”

LOL! As if calling a person and his wife commie lovers is not a personal attack!


55 posted on 10/19/2017 4:33:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator

I never wrote that and it wouldn’t be a personal attack if I did. Drawing conclusions about your motivations based on your comments is not a personal attack. Saying I’m dumb and a sick puppy are. Since you’ve still made no negative remarks about the Communist regime but posted numerous criticisms of Diem and the ROV, I can only assume your wife liked Ho Chi Minh better than the alternatives.


56 posted on 10/19/2017 4:42:22 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
You would fit right in with the Cần Lao Party ...
57 posted on 10/19/2017 4:45:20 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Did I deny there was corruption in South Vietnam? No, I did not. “

Then I must assume you believe there was no corruption in South Vietnam and you are personally attacking me to get me to shut up.


58 posted on 10/19/2017 4:52:17 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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To: TexasGator
Proudly, if the alternative was Đông Dương Cộng sản Đảng.
59 posted on 10/19/2017 4:52:25 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“Proudly,”

Really! You would have gladly carried off my wife’s classmates and neighbors for them to never be heard of again.


60 posted on 10/19/2017 4:54:51 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z)
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