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1 posted on 10/17/2017 7:30:51 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

This doesn’t start with PRyno?


2 posted on 10/17/2017 7:35:01 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: 11th_VA

Maybe we should tell them they won the Senate and make the rules now.


3 posted on 10/17/2017 7:35:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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51 votes...just do it. Drive the democrats into the dirt. They wouldn’t think twice about doing it to us like they did with Obamacare.


4 posted on 10/17/2017 7:35:41 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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Don’t agree to a penny for bailout of Obamacare insurance companies unless the ‘RATS (and RINOs such as Lamar Alexander) agree, and PASS, substantial funding of the border wall. Stop being suckers!


6 posted on 10/17/2017 7:37:11 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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I don’t recall Obama’s agenda being stopped dead in its tracks because of a GOP filibuster...


7 posted on 10/17/2017 7:37:12 PM PDT by daler
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This should get VERY INTERESTING.

For the Democrats, they are HELL-BENT on preventing the Wall, not because the wall will help control Illegal Immigration, but because their entire 2018 strategy for Congress (and 2020 at all levels) absolutely depends on Democrats (along with NeverTrumpers) being able to tell us conservatives that “TRUMP LIED TO YOU” regarding the border wall (...and therefore vote Democrat, since Trump is a phony, or don’t bother voting, either way).

And the Democrats WILL SHUTDOWN the government to prevent Trump’s victory here (and they do not give a shit about the Dreamers, not one bit...privately I suspect many of them are sick of the their attitude and would also like them gone). That is the ONE ISSUE they will die for.

So the REAL QUESTION is how far they’ll go with the shutdown and whether Trump and the Republicans will be able to frame it correctly, which goes like this:

“The reason your precious government is shutdown is to prevent Trump from building a wall to stop Illegal Immigration.”

To us, it seems like a NO-BRAINER VICTORY for our side, but to our neutered bunch in Congress, they likely don’t think they can win here and are shaking in their pants.


8 posted on 10/17/2017 7:45:12 PM PDT by BobL
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Shut her down. My happiness will abound.


9 posted on 10/17/2017 7:46:39 PM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
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To: 11th_VA

Just how does a the minority party shutdown the government? Somebody walk me through that.


10 posted on 10/17/2017 7:48:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Trump has (remarkable) political instincts.

I think he will take this to the mat, and I think he will drag the GOP along with him, though there are (far) too many in the GOP who are sold-out globalists, who really root for China.

(as do many in the Democratic party, as well)

Trump has been VERY good with his political judgement thus far. I think he is maybe heading toward true greatness.

He understands the importance of the wall.

I think he does anyway. I sure hope he does.


13 posted on 10/17/2017 7:55:54 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: 11th_VA

F$&king sad. A very basic sovereignty issue has become political football


15 posted on 10/17/2017 8:08:35 PM PDT by Lee25
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17 posted on 10/17/2017 8:34:10 PM PDT by libh8er
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So Amnesty is getting Buried in the Bill To Hide it from Us ! Giving Amnesty to millions of New Democrats .

Is Trump and the GOP ‘are stupid .

millions of New Democrats will turn FL and TX Blue forever .

We need a new party !

18 posted on 10/17/2017 8:38:22 PM PDT by ncalburt (l)
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To: 11th_VA

Or, maybe not..............


25 posted on 10/18/2017 8:28:58 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Ignorance is reparable, stupid is forever)
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To: 11th_VA

The dems have 48 senators. Two of those will vote for the funding.

Should not be a problem even with Capt. Queeg, Collins and Murkowski.

Efn rinos.

5.56mm


26 posted on 10/18/2017 8:33:36 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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1.6 billion is the monthly tax revenue of a state/province in a small country (like Canada). I can't believe these arseholes are being so cheap. They can help Bush pass 500 billion in bail outs to the investment banks without a heart beat, but we will fight over 1.6 billion?
28 posted on 10/18/2017 1:51:32 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Senate GOP to Back Trump on Border Wall, Risking Shutdown Fight

The Border Wall will be funded by the Rat party and the GOP.

The Rats are running too scared these days which is unusual.

31 posted on 10/18/2017 6:10:29 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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