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To: angry elephant

Even if Nazism is a leftist ideology, the fact that the extreme right embraces the swastika makes it appear that Nazism is right wing. And appearances rule.


9 posted on 10/16/2017 4:20:25 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: sparklite2

Motorcycle bikers and other “outlaws” were extreme right?


37 posted on 10/16/2017 4:48:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: sparklite2

Is David Duke to the right of Ronald Reagan?


40 posted on 10/16/2017 4:49:15 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: sparklite2

The left vs right thing is the twisted logic of Americas left only because the American left doesn’t want to face the reality that ultimately what they believe in is the ultimate power of the state. The Nazis killed a lot of people and it gave them bad press so the American left says they are right wing nuts. The Chinese, PolPot, Korea communists killed a lot of people but they didn’t call a press conference so it was ignored. Anyone capable of reason can see they are the same BS. As the earlier post said, the communists call it candy.


41 posted on 10/16/2017 4:53:10 PM PDT by Dennis M.
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To: sparklite2; angry elephant
I think you’ve bought the big lie of the post-WWII Western Left that Nazism is somehow right wing, when it is anything but.

A long quote to support my point:

Although our modern socialists' promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under "communism" and "fascism." As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, "the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany."

No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.

-- F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom, 1944

And to be clear, a “liberal of the old type”, “those who really believe in individual freedom” is clearly a modern conservative. Our current Left, who fancy themselves “Liberals” are anything but, and their tacit acceptance of the use of violence to prevent conservative speech on college campuses from people like Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro proves it.

Further, I would argue that anyone marching under the swastika today is anything but “right wing”, though the media paints them as such for political reasons. A close examination of their beliefs should make this clear.

54 posted on 10/16/2017 5:10:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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