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This is a well done article on the future of gas vs electric powered vehicles. From what I can tell, once a certain technology threshold has been met, things will happen fast. This includes the driver-less cars buzzing everywhere in towns and cities. The spread out western half of the country and some down south may take longer to convert. It will be hard to pull the steering wheel and handle bars of gas-powered vehicles out of the hands of long-time motor heads like myself. Then there's the affordability factor. But what if there's a big breakthrough in making gas engines get amazing gas mileage; like 60-80 mpg? Will that slow the transition or will the two simply co-exist. Interesting times ahead...
1 posted on 10/14/2017 9:50:40 PM PDT by Boomer
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Peons are so much easier to control when they are only allowed to travel 50 miles once every 24 hours.


2 posted on 10/14/2017 9:59:17 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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If this becomes the accepted wisdom, and from the auto manufacturers it looks like it is, then it will be a race to develop as much oil in the meantime as possible. Which also means cheap prices from here on.


5 posted on 10/14/2017 10:08:26 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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So where is the energy going to come from? Fairy dust?


6 posted on 10/14/2017 10:13:10 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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One thing about the Euro crew. They talk big but never hit their numbers.


10 posted on 10/14/2017 10:35:11 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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my take

Level 4 self driving cars will caputure 5% new market share by 2022 and reach 30% new car market share by 2026. After reaching 30% share, level 4 & 6 will only gradually reach 90% share by 2035 or so. Since cars live for 10 years, there will be plenty of human driven cars on the road even in 2035.

Electric cars will be adopted on at a much faster rate than robot cars. The S curve of adoption will be insanely steep. The performance and reliability and space advantages are overwhelming for EVs; once battery costs come down. Battery costs are plummeting. Once the Chinese, Germans, GM, Ford, and Tesla have their battery factories up and running Battery prices will drop like a rock. EVs might have a 50-70% new market share by 2026.


13 posted on 10/14/2017 10:49:42 PM PDT by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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This is a well done article on the future of gas vs electric powered vehicles.

I think most people are misreading the intentions of these government dictates. It's not about electric cars versus gasoline-powered cars. It's about forcing people to give up driving cars. Only a small sector of the population will be allowed to drive cars. Everyone else will be forced to restrict their movements and must use public transportation, or use bicycles. That's the only scenario that works with limited supplies of electricity to charge electric vehicles - limit the number of electric vehicles in use, and outright ban gasoline cars while they're at it. They'll have to pry mine out of my cold dead hands.

14 posted on 10/14/2017 10:55:18 PM PDT by roadcat
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At 30MW per each to replace every gas station in America with a comparable charging capacity, don’t hold your breath on this happening any time soon. 30MW = a city of 70,000. Per Rush Limbaugh.


18 posted on 10/14/2017 11:10:33 PM PDT by citizen (The aging US Senate: 5 in 80s, 18 in 70s, 32 in 60s, 30 in 50s, 14 in 40s, and 1 in 30s.)
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This plan is exactly on the same level as gun control.

Only govt & the elites will enjoy the unlimited travel range that gasoline powered cars give. All the rest of the population must be controlled by every means possible including limiting their freedom of movement via crippling their automobile via the name of the environment (Again).

21 posted on 10/14/2017 11:59:05 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be made the Cat Food instead.)
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I presume they will have to repeal the laws of thermodynamics and physical chemistry first?

Everybody acknowledges there must be one, or several, “breakthroughs in battery technology” for this great replacement of gasoline and diesel to happen.

But what is the basis for believing that this is possible?


24 posted on 10/15/2017 12:37:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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And as a result of this environmentally friendly decision, many countries are massively ramping up power generation to accommodate the vastly increase electrical demand. Or ...?

GM will stop making gasoline cars in the next 3 years because there is such a huge demand for electric cars.

Electrical cars are such a thrill to drive over mountain grades and down steep inclines; oh, and never mind the joy of driving to work in subzero temperatures or during a blizzard, really hot summers are a drivers joy especially in backed up traffic They will just buzz all over ... can’t wait for the buzzing to begin ...

Fools joy, I think.

Meanwhile, oil supplies glut the market as more and more oil is found and brought to market.


30 posted on 10/15/2017 2:35:17 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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This is so inane. It takes gas energy to make electricity and the to convert electricity to motion you have yet another efficiency issue.

this will save crap and make things more complicated.

How does one become autonomous on a farm with electricity only? It cannot happen unless one has a gas generator...

I have a feeling they want to make people dependent on a government controled grid. Then they can ration the stuff or punish people as they wish. Bubye freedom.


34 posted on 10/15/2017 4:28:02 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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Nobody is going to wait 3 hours to "quick" charge their e-car on a road trip. Until there is a breakthrough drastically reducing recharge times then we will be using the ICE.

This is poppycock as the Brits like to say.

35 posted on 10/15/2017 4:41:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Government does not have the right to ban the sale of certain kinds of cars. But nobody cares about that.

Tow trucks. Fire trucks. Ambulances. Police cars. Do they plan to make them non-petroleum too?

All power out in Puerto Rico. No electricity.

With gasoline, you keep running until you run out of gasoline.

Charging stations need electricity to run. A charge takes much longer than a gas fillup.

This is a really stupid idea.


37 posted on 10/15/2017 5:08:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a violent political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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Unless we start building mass transit equivalent to European countries that will not happen here in that time frame. Add to that decentralization of production so that rural areas produce much of their own food as they did before railroads and now trucks deliver essentials. What we’re seeing are edicts that ignore history.

Now that anthropogenic climate change is in the dust bin we can pursue getting off the planet to avoid the destruction of mankind by the next mass extinction event.


39 posted on 10/15/2017 5:54:31 AM PDT by meatloaf
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This is socialist bullshit .
Only aim is taking away freedom to travel.
Most economical use of luquid fuel is powering hybrids.
Flying cars predicted and promised for 80 years.
If it aint broke dobt try to fix it.
Stop worshipping technology.

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40 posted on 10/15/2017 5:58:34 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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sooner we get rid of Saudi oil the better.


47 posted on 10/15/2017 9:57:07 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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