Just food for thought, but we were all outraged by Obama’s use of Executive orders during his eight year reign of terror. As much as I agree with our President’s use of the Executive order in this instance are we being hypocritical?
Plus, this EO can be immediately reversed in 8 years.
You can never put this Administration is the business as usual box. He’s fighting Dems, his own party, entire media, and deep state.
Anything he can do I cheer.
That is the question isn’t it? Does the president have the authority to do everything that he is doing in this EO?
No, he’s DEREGULATING a regulation that was on the books
This goes back to one thing and one thing only, the attempt to make EVERY health insurance policy cover the same thing.
People are paying attention to the portions across state lines and association approaches but the BIGGEST way to reduce cost is to be able to offer the old-fashioned Major Medical policies that most of us remember from our younger days! Now the states will be able to let insurance companies design those plans again, which were effectively regulated out of existence to make us cover EVERYTHING in our policies.
Doing THAT ALONE is the death knell for Obamacare!
There is an element of our president versus their president and executive orders here. Those on the other side simply might not like this. However, this truly is attempting to fix an identified problem with Obamacare. Many people are choosing not to take Obamacare and instead are paying a penalty. Then when they do have a medical issue, they apply for Obamacare. In other words they are getting insurance without having insurance. With this executive order, president Trump is at least getting a large block of uninsured people, about 30 million of them to be exact, under an insurance plan. That means they will not cost the government money for coverage if they do get sick. In that way this actually supplements the current law and it does take care of people
There's no comparison.
This president actually loves America.
In a word: Yes. I believe any use of Executive Orders no matter who is President simply short-circuits the legislative process and is an infraction of the Separation of Powers clause.
Having said that, the same thing that's happening to Obama EO's can and likely WILL happen to President Trump's EO's in the future: Nullified/revoked by the next President.
I'm "ok" with this as an EO (yes, that makes me a hypocrite) for the time being, there is NO SUBSTITUTE for the legislative execution of REPEAL and REPLACE via LAW of Obamacare.
“As much as I agree with our President’s use of the Executive order in this instance are we being hypocritical?”
Man, dont compare DJT with that Imbecile. When you go to war, you use every weapon at your disposal. Trump is fighting against his own party, the media and Dems. I dont want him handcuffed.
Just food for thought, but we were all outraged by Obama’s use of Executive orders during his eight year reign of terror. As much as I agree with our President’s use of the Executive order in this instance are we being hypocritical?
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In this case, no.
And even if it was a blatant misuse of power on par with Obama, we COULD make an argument about it being acceptable, but in this case it’s not quite to that point.
If I remember correctly, OCare gave a huge amount of power to the executive in its implementation, so Trump is 100% within the law right now.
As if! It’s not Fascism when (R)... /sadly true ‘round here to some (most?)
There are so many....The Secretary shall decides....in Obamacare I don’t know why Trump has to do anything. Tom Price could’ve more or less made Obamacare null and void by undoing or reinterpreting a lot of things. Apparently he didn’t want to do anything but fly places and make speeches.
It’s the new normal...don’t ya know. 8)
We are outraged by the use of napalm, too, but if the enemy uses it, they can damned sure know we will too.
President Trump is expanding an existing provision of ObamaCare so not only is it legal, it's explicitly a part of ObamaCare
“....are we being hypocritical?”
I don’t think so. I actually believe the blame for Obama’s use of executive orders is often misplaced.
Legislation cleanly passed by both houses of congress can easily overturn an executive order - because a POTUS vetoing legislation in order to protect an executive order would certainly be seen as overreaching.
As long as there is obstruction and gridlock in congress, as there clearly is now, Trump’s use of executive orders is fine by me. However, if congress were to get its act together and pass a clean bill that would reverse or replace an executive order - and Trump were to veto such a bill - that would constitute executive overreach.
I think it would be hypocritical for us to support his use of the veto for that purpose. Personally, I don’t believe Trump would do that.
IMHO
“As much as I agree with our President’s use of the Executive order in this instance are we being hypocritical?”
i don’t see why:
1. nothing unconstitutional about this.
2. merely orders staff to facilitate the utility of an existing provision in ERISA regarding interstate health insurance cooperatives.