Posted on 10/11/2017 9:50:56 AM PDT by topher
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Tuesday issued a memo to all 32 teams addressing the issue of players not standing for the national anthem before games.
In the memo, Goodell stated that the league believes that "everyone should stand for the national anthem" and "our country, and our fans expect that of us."
"It only took Roger, what, two or three weeks of public humiliation to finally get the message?" Newt Gingrich said on "Fox & Friends," noting that President Donald Trump has been a fierce critic of NFL players who refuse to stand for the national anthem, and the league and owners that have allowed them to do so.
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I agree - still using should and I must have missed the part about hands over hearts, as well as no kneeling, locking arms or fists in the air. They blew it. IMO, because we now know they don’t give a damn. Never again NFL.
Already in operational manual. Has no teeth. Not ‘must’ and if not ‘will’ be fined/punished not ‘may’. In any event I was done with this anti-American bunch last year. Screw the NFL.
“They still have the PSA with kissing fags on.”
Really? They do? Yeah; I can’t imagine many macho football fans wanting to see THAT. It can’t be helpful when it comes to increasing viewership.
It's called a condition of employment, and when you sign on the dotted line you surrender some "rights" while on the job.
Sure, you don't have to do what they want - but then you can find another job, too.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I misunderstand the NFL command structure. Maybe Joe Blow on the team is equal to the team owner, and Joe can do as he pleases (as it appears).
*shrug*
Let them do whatever they want
Then the viewers and fans can do whatever they want
If they continue watching and filling stadiums we will know where we really are as a country
So far I see no decline in the crowd sizes at the modern day Roman circuses
He’s starting to get some of the message - saying they ‘should” stand and enforcing with penalties for not honoring the anthem are two different things. Probably trying to save face as the owners get together to try to figure out which is worse - catering to the People that pay their way or catering to the scum that use it as a protest venue....
LOL - The minstrel show (NFL) wants deplorable money but their heart belongs to the LGBTQYRSNDT
A day late and a dollar short, Goodell - not coming back. Life is short to be wasting away in front of the boob tube with NFL, NASCAR, etc
He should have been in the government
The players have the right to not stand for the national anthem on their own time, but not in the workplace. There’s no such right.
The American people have always just needed someone to lead them. We have not had that since Reagan. The people will do the work, After 2010 when tea party was co-opted by GOPe and allowed for the people to be denigrated, their had to be someone in a high position to help us fight back, we now how that in Trump. He is far from perfect but he is willing to take the establishment on and I am willing to follow and fight with him.
I figure the player will get pissed at Goodell, and there will be a lot more protesters this week. Good. Loss of revenue, advertisement, and fans needs to continue at a solid pace.
The guy on the field is an employee.
I can have my own opinions too, I just can’t tell clients while I’m on the job.
>>I can have my own opinions too, I just can’t tell clients while I’m on the job.
>>The players have the right to not stand for the national anthem on their own time, but not in the workplace. There’s no such right.
>>I’ve worked for a couple of companies and they all had employee expectations. “Business conduct guidelines”, except they weren’t all “guidelines”, with various “shall” and “must” and “will” thrown in there.
>>It’s called a condition of employment, and when you sign on the dotted line you surrender some “rights” while on the job.
>>Sure, you don’t have to do what they want - but then you can find another job, too.
>>Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I misunderstand the NFL command structure. Maybe Joe Blow on the team is equal to the team owner, and Joe can do as he pleases (as it appears).
>>*shrug*
My post was pretty short and you three failed to read the whole thing, or really any of it since you totally missed the point.
My original post was this:
No. He’s right. Americans should stand. This is America and no one makes me stand or kneel. But I also understand consequences. Those players have the right to not stand. Fans have the right to stay home. Team owners have the right to change rosters. That’s how freedom works and another man’s freedom means he doesn’t have to do what you want.
I’ll try to explain it and be more direct.
“Americans should stand. This is America and no one makes me stand or kneel. Those players have the right to not stand.”
Freedom and rights are everyone’s. No one should say that Americans MUST stand or kneel for anything. Goodell said “should” and he is right.
“Team owners have the right to change rosters.”
But, exercising rights may carry a cost. When they are on that field in that uniform, they are employees. They have rights and so does their employer.
“Fans have the right to stay home.”
The league also needs to address the rights of fans to stay home. As a business, it is no-brainer that you cater to the fans and help the players find a venue off-field to air their bullsh!t grievances against the greatest nation on earth, which is far better than all the black-led hellholes in Africa.
“That’s how freedom works and another man’s freedom means he doesn’t have to do what you want.”
So, they can piss off their employer and hopefully become unemployed. Or they can exercise their freedom someplace where the NFL can’t make them pay for it.
But, my tagline says it all when it comes to these pampered millionaire ball players.
I didn’t miss your point. I just don’t agree with it. A constitutional right is defined as “A liberty or right whose protection from governmental interference is guaranteed by a constitution.” They don’t apply to actions taken by an employer to define rules of behavior on the job.
The players have no “right” to kneel on the sideline during the playing of the national anthem at NFL games. I have no “right” to put on a white robe and dash to the fifty yard line to burn a cross at the Super Bowl.
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