Posted on 10/11/2017 6:31:23 AM PDT by Mariner
I wonder why no one returned fire through that door? It would have at least distracted the shooter from shooting at the crowd.
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Yes most are likely addicts, but the addicts run out of money- usually fairly quickly. The shooter managed to do this for years- so he was either being paid well by someone to do something or he was laundering money for someone.
The old saying “follow the money” really leaps out here. The real estate transactions that have been reported do not explain the money he had to have, some of them he lost money on. I do not believe it is possible to make money playing video poker over a period of years. If so, the casinos would have decided he had a way of rigging the game or something.
Someone posted on another thread that maybe his dad the bank robber left him some money under a rock in the desert. Maybe, without all the technology of today people did get away with robbing banks. I did read that his dad was suspected of robbing like 16 banks and only tried/convicted of 2 bank robberies.
His money came from something, I am not convinced it was real estate or gambling. It is possible to make big money with real estate but one article showed his deals and it didn’t seem like enough to make it all work.
“I wonder why no one returned fire through that door? It would have at least distracted the shooter from shooting at the crowd.”
No one with a gun was on the 32nd floor until after the shooter already stopped.
Did the shooter do that? There are claims he didn’t like to deal with people and liked to play in a quiet area. So could he do tournaments that way? I don’t know anything about how it works, I thought the tournaments were more public.
If he could do tournaments then possibly he was able to make that kind of money gambling.
I see a No Hotlinking message.
They at least could have tried but they did nothing with what they had, if they had a small octocopter drone, a difficult target to see a night and almost impossible to hit. They did nothing hi-tech- it was all 19th century tactics.
If this scenario was planned and prepared for there still would likely have not been perfect knowledge- but I would expect far better than what the response was.
I would expect there to be confusion or not perfect knowledge if there was no planning and preparation for something like this.
I guess I have a hard time believing that Vegas of all places does not have their ducks in a row when something like this happens. It is always on the list of likely terrorist targets and has been since 9/11.
You are right, the MGM may not have notified LE right away, though for an active shooter you would expect them to.
So if they didn’t notify LE right away, why wouldn’t they? What reason could they have?
I would suggest your definition of ducks in a row is imperfect at best
“So if they didn’t notify LE right away, why wouldn’t they? What reason could they have?”
I can think of several, but none of them are very good ones.
I thought LE was at the end of the hallway...SWAT team at least. So no LE was on the floor while he was shooting?
This has the revised timeline, and it does show no LE on that floor while shooter was shooting. Early reports had LE huddled by elevator with wounded security guard and some reports even had them engaging with shooter while shooting.
Sorry, that is what I get for thinking early reports are truthful. Or even later ones for that matter.
I guess the hotel disputes this timeline:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-vegas-shooting-timeline-revised-20171009-story.html
This timeline shows two police officers on the 31st floor at 10:12 with shots still being fired until 10:15.
They arrived on the 32nd at 10:17.
I wonder if the shooter somehow saw them arriving (by camera?) and killed himself then?
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The reports are that he owned at least 2 apartment buildings, and perhaps more. That could easily result in a sizable amount of monthly income. If he was truly a millionaire and as good with numbers as we are being told, it is possible that he was simply taking in more money from his investments than he was losing at his gambling.
And yet not a single, not one, video of anything that occurred on that floor that evening. Mandalay Bay must unique in that they do not use video cameras. Or that just protocol in gambling resorts?
“And yet not a single, not one, video of anything that occurred on that floor that evening. Mandalay Bay must unique in that they do not use video cameras. Or that just protocol in gambling resorts?”
Nothing that they believe is helpful to make public at this point. Who knows whether the police want the video private, MGM, or both?
This article is interesting:
Yes, he was a professional gambler specializing in video poker.
Since winning requires a player to make correct betting and card selection decisions quickly over an extended period of time...at the professional level there really isn't time for small talk.
In fact a lot of Paddock's 'odd' behavior can be explained by understanding he was a professional gambler moving around between Vegas and Reno depending on which casino was sponsoring a high stakes video poker tournament.
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