Posted on 10/08/2017 7:49:21 AM PDT by Twotone
A progressive correspondent asks: If you were drafting the Constitution in 2017, would you include the Second Amendment? Its an ignorant question, but one that was asked in good faith, and the answer may be illuminating to some of our friends who are mystified by conservative thinking on the question.
The short answer is: Yes, of course a 21st-century Bill of Rights should codify the right to keep and bear arms. The document does not create the right; the right precedes the document, which merely recognizes it and ensures that the government is constrained when, inevitably, its all-too-human members are tempted to violate that right.
Progressives take a tabula rasa view of the human condition, the human animal, the human experience, and human society. In this view human beings, individually and corporately, can be shaped into . . . whatever we desire to shape them into. Rights, in this understanding, come from the state: We decide together, through democratic and other political means, what rights and obligations people are to have, and the state acts (in theory) as our instrument in that matter. If you take that view, then the progressive attitude toward the right to keep and bear arms that it is more trouble than it is worth and that it therefore should be reduced or eliminated altogether is entirely understandable.
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There is no one currently alive AT ALL CAPABLE of drafting ANYTHING like the Constitution or the 2A. They shouldn’t even be stupid enough to opine. ...Like HILLIARY’s dumb comments about the electoral college.
Because armed citizens just won’t get in a box car.
I would include it and it would read like this:
“Congress shall make no law imposing any regulation, restriction, ban, tax, tariff, import ban or regulation, registration, or any control of any kind, on bearable arms, accessories, ammunition, ammunition components, or firearm parts. No State, Territory, or other sovereign governmental entity within the jurisdiction of United States shall make any law or ordnance as described. The people have a right pre-existing this document to keep and bear arms. Violation of this right under color of law shall be punished as Treason.”
I think that’d cover everything.
Good start, need to add....”and violators will be taken out to the curb and summarily executed.”
You should omit the word “bearable”.
The authors of the original envisioned citizens carrying-out Letters of Marque and Reprisal; for that they would need what constituted heavy artillery of the era.
I used to teach U.S. and MO Constitutions to my 7th & 8th graders. For the U.S. Constitution we went line by line through the whole thing. Can’t do that with the MO constitution—it’s 130 pages in a bound book! I told the kids political geniuses wrote the U.S. Constitution and a bunch of lawyers wrote the MO constitution—and it shows.
Agreed. I’d rather it be a Presidential directive like this:
I have directed the Justice Department to fully implement the second amendment of our constitution as written, and to severely prosecute any persons, entities, departments or states that infringe on this right as they would any other right enumerated in our bill of rights. All gun control laws are hereby declared illegal, and are to be ignored by American citizens.
“Because armed citizens just wont get in a box car.”
Well said.
How many legal weapons I own is nobody's damn business under the 2nd Amendment & 4th Amendment!
Or do the liberal bastards & bitches want to do away with the 4th also?
If so, come... and git 'em!
I am always slackjawed at people who know nothing about firearms trying to tell those who do what kind of weapons they should be allowed to have. But I do get a chuckle reading proclamations that no homeowner needs an AR-15 for self-defense. Heck, it is a superior home-defense platform.
Not only that my YOUR state inflicted THIS on the country:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Plan MORE LAWYER CRAP!
For very close combat, there is nothing better than a Thompson... and that was told to me when I was 14-years old by none other than Audie Murphy--
“... shall not be infringed” is sufficient. Totally clear. FFs presumed personal ownership of ALL weapons including battleships. More words will not persuade those ignoring any words. More words only serves to give more loopholes
With the caveat that you would be maintain one and be practiced in its use (i.e. "well regulated"). If you maintain a tank and practice with it, I have absolutely no problem with you owning it. But those conditions are necessary and written into the amendment.
Won’t get in a boxcar alive and voluntarily, anyway.
The History of Human Nature is what is in question.
Modern Man, the Progressive enlightened and socially evolved wanna be architects of the way things should be are finding an ever increasing audience of simple minded reactionary tools in our post-modernist era.
I like it; perhaps should add that no new immigrant with less than 10 years of legal (naturalized citizenship) residency shall purchase, bear, own, acquire, or posses arms within the jurisdiction of the United States.
They will use big yellow school buses,... and... far too many of the sheeple will compliantly board them just as their government teachers taught them to do.
With tyrants like Barry and Hillary running for president it’s needed more now than ever before.
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