[TBP]

We have over 20,000(!) gunn laws in this country, yet somehow the next one will solve the problem.

[elpadre]

Here is the correlation and no one seems interested:

With a background in law enforcement at several levels and being a combat veteran, my views on firearms differs from much of what I read and hear. I don’t see the use of firearms in these killings any different than I do an automobile with a DUI at the wheel.

I believe we are looking at two different causal factors. One has to do with perpetrators seeped in a religious ideology they believe calls for the killing of infidels. Those, of course are of radical Islam.

But the other group is different. These are clearly people with mental issues.

There appears to be an uncanny correlation between these white mass murderers and psychiatric drugs. Sitting in a doctor’s office two years ago, waiting for my annual physical,I read a medical journal article pointing out that in 31 of the most recent murders (or attempts), at schools and the like, the shooter was on one of the hard, usually prescription, drugs, and it also noted a high percentage of suicides are also related.

Interestingly, the mental health community has counseled law enforcement not to inform the public of this fact because others on the drugs may stop using them and become worse. - a very complicated problem.

It seems to me we need to concentrate our attention and prayers to combating the actual causes. These are people with mental health issues. How do we get them off the streets? Maybe, just maybe, it is the psychiatric community who are failing us and all society..

[reasonisfaith]

More citizen gun ownership = less crime.

[joma89]

This is an equivalent argument to ‘The sun comes up in the east and sets in the west’ because the argument uses that pesky little thing called a fact to support the thesis. It is also an irrelevant argument to a liberal.

If a liberal wanted the sun to rise in the west and set in the east because they were emotionally hurt by the way it currently is, rest assured, they would invent a straw man argument which called for socialized funding (read federal funding through the threat of government force) to research ways to stop the sun from rising in the east and make it rise in the west. (i.e. sort of reminds me of the global warming, global cooling, climate change argument)

JoMa

[KosmicKitty]

I think the real stat to look at is illegal ownership and murder rates.

[Koracan]

There's No Correlation Between Gun Ownership, Mass Shootings, and Murder Rates

but there might be a correlation here::
....In a typical year, suicides outnumber homicides by 3 to 1 and a majority of suicides are by firearm. about 30,000 a year.....
...Higher gun ownership was associated with higher suicide rates by any means ....